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oh my God I'm so excited to get on air

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with these guys again welcome back to

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calling all beings I'm your host DJ

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along with my co-conspirator who's

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already starting up another joint with

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me and I don't mean the kind you

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thinking of Sam okay Tupa I'm talking

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about something else money Nathan what's

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up not much man just uh having a good

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Friday beautiful day out there uh did

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some projects today a few projects that

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you know about you know just just what

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you talked about there excited to help

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out with that and uh just really excited

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to talk to Kevin and oh Productions baby

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what's up and uh so Kevin uh may join us

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flarious Kevin when he gets home from

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work is it work mate he's taking care of

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business yes but until he gets here

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holding it down is our research and

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homie who I done shared her UFO

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connector on tupacabra space and I'm

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like you want to learn about the

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phenomena whoa hold up man I got a place

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with one stop shopping for everything

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and that is study of uaps what's up Debs

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hi everyone I'm excited excited about

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today for sure glad to be here Deb you

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look great today good to see you thank

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it's good to have you uh and also uh my

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homegirl who had a great conversation

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with last week I can't wait till the

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next one and she is at UAP experiences

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staff what's up homegirl what is I

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missed you guys so much I was itching to

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get on camera with you guys like

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all day today and not only that but you

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know it's Kevin's birthday today so

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we're not only getting to interview

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Kevin day but we're able to celebrate

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him so yeah it's really it's a it's a

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great day great way to end the week yeah

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I mean thank you and speaking of the

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itching uh if I can send you some uh

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DJ's bespoke skin care with Nathan on

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the cover that's true and uh I think

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that'll handle skin anomalies that you

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have or even Kevin

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yeah oh wait I just said it I just said

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his name okay all right Party People Get

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Ready To welcome this brother right here

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he's United States Navy retired this

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brother was on the USS Princeton tracked

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the a Tic Tac for several days before

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directing a successful and probably very

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frightening intercept on that with Dave

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fraver Alex Dietrich in their

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backseaters pardon me because I don't

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know their last names I'm like in

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trouble uh but we are super excited to

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have my Navy brother to get that hour

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and Cheeto dust off your hands and put

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what's up hello there hello there from

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uh beautiful Southern Oregon Illinois

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Valley glad to be here today great to

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see you

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your timing is perfect

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yes we're a very dog friendly show so

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it's not a problem yeah absolutely we

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are a dog friendly show we've done a

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couple of things for dog rescues on this

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show hey there's my colleague right

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there John Smith uh chiming in he's

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another uh simulator analyst and also a

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huge motorcycle YouTuber hey John thank

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you brother

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um so anyway we're very happy to have

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you uh Kevin uh there's stuff that we've

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sort of wanted to dig into but before we

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kind of do this I was wondering

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so everybody knows that you're part of

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this I mean you're basically famous uh

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in the community because of the incident

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that uh basically happened because you

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decided to take action probably against

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uh you know uh certain judgments that

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that you might have thought would or

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would be held against you uh to direct

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and intercept of this device uh that you

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saw over several days and I was

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wondering if you could explain to people

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uh just in general uh that for the

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layperson about the Spy one radar and

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what we're looking at what is a phased

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array radar compared to what we would

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think of as like a targeting radar or

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ATC type radar

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while traditional radar will rotate and

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then you'll you'll see uh objects lit up

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as a as the beam passes them and then

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it'll come back around and get a next

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update on the track and you can track it

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that way and they got faster and faster

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and faster now the Spy is a phased array

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three-dimensional radar it looks in all

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directions all the time all the time

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unless you narrow it down and you can

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sub you can subdirect it and sector it

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out and all that other kind of stuff so

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you don't flood your own systems so to

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speak and it's a beautiful system and um

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it's a system that we use to uh find

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those contacts off Catalina Island back

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in 2004.

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and the the what I honestly in my heart

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at heart and I don't know it's always

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been a burning question for me is like

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you know I had spent literally years in

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those Waters behind that radar I was on

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the USS Vincennes

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um I was one of the very first spy

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operators you know in in the whole

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program there was cg-48 I was on cg-49

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even as I was on the chosen out in Pearl

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Harbor and then back in San Diego on the

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Princeton literally years in those

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and this was my very last underway

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and I was I was up on watch I was a very

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senior trainer of course I was trying to

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get the combat team ready they were

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going on deployment

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off your initial question a little bit

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but it kind of has to do with the

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qualities of the radar itself if it's

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okay I'd like to just kind of continue

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with this thought please and I was up on

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Watch and um I noticed these tracks off

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Catalina I was like that's really odd

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and it wasn't my situation awareness at

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the moment because my my focus was down

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on the air defense sector part which is

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way below uh outer space okay but the

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ballistic missile defense team was

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actually tracking these objects coming

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down from lower Earth orbit they would

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go to 80 000 feet and kind of stay and

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then they would go down to 28 000 feet

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where I became

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not really concerned about him but I

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became aware of them and the thing is

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they were tracking from Catalina

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right through our operations area and at

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the time we didn't have any aircraft

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aboard nibits they have they hadn't

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embarked on the ship yet so and I

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thought it was just something

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um civilian related they didn't even

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know we were out there although there

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was nothing in the no Toms no Tams uh

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noticed air Mariners yeah I I notified I

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thought hey maybe they just forgot but

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they were on our data links we were

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reporting them back to the beach just in

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case

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and tell the day of November 14th rolled

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around and I I did have aircraft on the

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nemesan and we were going to do a big

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huge air defense exercise

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that's when Kevin day became concerned

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because I was very concerned about

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safety of flight

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and that is one of my primary concerns

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to this moment

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and that's the reason why I chose to

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speak out of it originally I was like

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hey guys

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anyway I'm kind of jumping ahead let me

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go back um Captain Smith comes down to

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combat I said Hey sir they're tracking

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these things for days now no idea what

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they are I do not want to run into one

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of these because someone's going to ask

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you and me why we were so damn being

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curious about these objects they're real

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we've brought down our systems ran all

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the Diagnostics tests we had I think

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we're seeing them because of our systems

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upgrade it can let us see them now I

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highly recommend and I'm going to log

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this if you don't agree with me just so

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you know sir that we intercept one of

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these things

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and see what they are he said you're

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right singer Chief intercept and visual

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ID

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and Commander favor on Fast legal just

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happened to be the first man

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um or person Airborne not for Miss uh

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wing

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he was that kind of gay one of one of

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the greatest

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um Naval aviators that he's ever

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produced by the way and we took control

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of him and the rest is history

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I'm going to ask one more geek question

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before I turn it over to money Nathan

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who probably has a a banger of a

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question for you but

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um did you when you went to Pennsylvania

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I'm assuming you went to Pennsylvania on

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it and did it did it give you a

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different kind of a return or a more a

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more interesting aspect to look at in in

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a pencil mode or something

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uh uh the the there's no need to do that

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essentially on the spike on the Sperry

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radar um we had the highest quality

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Spike rack available the entire time we

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were tracking these things

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got it and

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um and the thing that really got

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everyone's attention really quickly of

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course and everyone knows this story by

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now is Commander forever got in the same

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piece of airspace this thing

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right down to the surface of the water

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and some people saying it went in the

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water it wasn't my situation when we're

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in this at the time when chasing it down

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in it right in front of him disappeared

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now in um Carrier air defense like if

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this is the aircraft carrier we'll have

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points in space in the direction of the

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of the of the threat sector of course my

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cameras reversed I'm getting pointed the

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wrong way on you guys okay

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um but we put out the defensive Shield

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between us and whatever threats out

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there combat Air Patrol station and he

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had in Commander Fraser and fast Eagle

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hadn't even gone into a station yet he

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had just launched the very first guy to

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launch for their defense exercise this

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object whatever it was

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somehow someway went exactly to his cap

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station his not someone other not

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assigned to someone else but his cap

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station

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and because they're specifically

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assigned to people uh different

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elements of the the

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of the flight that goes up

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and oh my God

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how do you explain that which I mean I

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what's your explanation I I'd love to

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hear it because I don't have one I

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to this moment I'm baffled huh

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this thing knew I think and and then

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when we recently went off SoCal we're

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going to talk about this later with

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Caroline Corey's movie a terror in this

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guy

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um one of the researchers um Matthew

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zydogas came up to me and said Hey Kevin

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I got a question for you say what what's

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that sir he said do you think intentions

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have something to do with this and I

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looked at him and he he was kind of

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emotional I said uh yes sir

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um I think that lesson was pretty clear

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in 2004 I think that's why it went to

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our cap station

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I think they were telling me

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maybe

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God I hate that it's hard for me because

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I I'm just a normal guy man I didn't ask

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for this [\h__\h] but we have to we have to

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we have to somehow I'm caught up in it

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and I've got to do this you know

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and

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because but some of the things I say

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they sound so egotistical but they're

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not meant to be it's just it's a

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reflection of what I'm going through in

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the reality of it

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so it's hard you know it's hard for me

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to come out like this because I just

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want to be a normal person and have a

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normal life I don't want to be famous I

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don't want to be rich

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I just want to help people at this point

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that's what I want I know who I work for

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we we are here with you brother and uh

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we're not here to judge we're not here

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to extract we're here to just kick

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around some ideas with someone who has

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more expertise in us and we greatly

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appreciate and uh respect that everyone

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will speak with us and let me turn it

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for this journey that's all I got to say

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and and

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it took me forever to figure this out

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you know and um

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you know when this first started

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happening I was concerned about safety

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of flight and I still am it's one of my

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primary concerns but the post Tic Tac

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thing if I could just kind of keep going

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with the story here because this is this

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isn't my message right here I'm about to

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get to my seven days message

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excuse me

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post Tic Tac I'll lead the defense

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contractor names addict because they

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were good people and they were just like

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to anyone else at the time I I would in

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meetings I say hey guys we got guys and

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gals we got a problem here off San Diego

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at uh safety or flight issue and they

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they what's up Kevin what's going on and

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I would try to describe what what

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happened in o4

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and all they heard all they could hear

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was UFO

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and I I literally got laughed out of

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meetings

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I can't even tell you how bad that hurt

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man

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it

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at one at one point um

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I got so damn frustrated I went home and

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I wrote a book

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um called I wrote a short story about

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the whole thing he changed all the names

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it's called The Seer I published it in

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the library at congress with some other

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short stories it's called Sailors

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Anthology and the reason why I did that

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is twofold one to get it off my chest in

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a positive way and two

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I put it in the Library of Congress just

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in case the story ever did become public

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my little book I published in February

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2009 would become direct evidence that

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the event itself actually happened

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and my book is now is a little bird told

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me it's one of the reasons why the

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government had to come out and say yeah

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or uint is real I mean how how

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there's no way to explain my book

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otherwise

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unless I have a time machine

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which I don't

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I have no doubt uh with no doubt about

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it

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yeah so I know I kind of went off the

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track with your spy question a little

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bit but no it's all related you know

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we're here this is what we're here for

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uh I just don't want to hog up all all

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the Kevin day I got to give it up to my

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brother money Nathan thank you Kevin

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yeah it's uh it's an honor to have you

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with us and uh do more than one show

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yeah yes we will you're welcome anytime

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anytime yep

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um I was having lunch with my dad today

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and we were talking about leadership and

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uh I won't tell you in what context but

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kind of we land on this this notion that

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some of the greatest leaders don't

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really want to lead

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uh they lead because they kind of have

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to and uh I just want to thank you for

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what you have done and the courage it

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took I know I hear what you're saying

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it's not something you have sought you

386
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know you just had to do this because you

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felt it was the right thing and along

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that same sort of line I know that we've

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had some hearings recently we've had

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some legislation that's been introduced

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that seems to really want to get at the

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heart of this Congress seems to want to

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try to solve as you said the safety of

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flight issue among many other issues

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related to this topic what was it like

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for you sort of seeing that progress uh

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take place in our in in our Congress are

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you optimistic

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um and then the second part of this

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question is what do you think about

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those who are in the role that you had

402
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who are out at Sea right now how do you

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think they're they're feeling about what

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they're seeing in this topic

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I think I'll take the second part of the

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question first I think active duty

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military now is greatly relieved

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that if they see something on patrol

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they can actually say something and not

410
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be looked at like they're crazy or

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immediately even a piss test

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to see if they've been smoking something

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you know which one of my bosses

414
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literally asked me Kevin what the hell

415
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you been smoking you know when I showed

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him my book

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god that hurt I can't even tell you how

418
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bad that hurt I'd known that guy all my

419
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career and I was like what are you what

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but anyway

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um active duty military nowadays are I

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think they're greatly relieved I really

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do and what was the first part of the

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question with the legislative uh

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progression yeah as a matter of fact um

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uh

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my our attorney at uapx has set Congress

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to letters um offering myself to testify

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which I

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um that's my goal I I would very much

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like it in front of Congress because I

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can tell you right now

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um if they get me if they get me in

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front of that Congress it's going to be

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C-SPAN history because I'm gonna turn

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some heads believe me because there's no

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way they're going to be look be able to

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look at me and say I'm lying nope

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it it doesn't look like that's their aim

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the way that they're they seem to be

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very generous with people that are that

442
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are yeah I understand I understand their

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positions I mean they're they're elected

444
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from the state of beautiful state of

445
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Pennsylvania or something right they're

446
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just a regular person

447
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and you know what they're trying to do

448
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the best they can and this whole thing

449
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comes out of the blue at them and

450
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they're trying to get fighting to

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improve streets in their Hometown you

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know and it's like

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it's

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something's got to wake them up at least

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and wake up to even the wrong the wrong

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turn because it makes them sound bad

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which they're not most of them are

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probably really good people

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like most of people on this planet it's

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just a very few of us I think that

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messes I will I won't cuss but messes it

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up for the rest of us but most of us are

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good including our Congress

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and

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of the other witnesses that have

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military

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that have had these experiences gets up

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in front of that Congress it'll make

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history

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yeah because something will happen out

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of it trust me I wanna I wanna just add

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I'm sorry go there's no way the bill

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I want to add one thing I mean the fact

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that you have the most qualified person

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to interpret the Spy one radar on the

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ship is you and so therefore that kind

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of testimony for people say I want data

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I want data I need expert testimony and

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data okay well you've you know you're

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not going to actually see the raw data

481
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but you're going to get the expert

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testimony and that's why you're I think

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you're very important is you didn't just

484
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see something with Mark 1 eyeballs that

485
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could be misinterpreted but you actually

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saw and were able to collect data using

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the best radar available at the time on

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this object and that is critical to

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those hearings in my opinion

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me too and um DJ don't give up hope um

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I'm not unconvinced at this point that

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that data might suddenly make an

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appearance if um during those hearings

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uh don't ask me how or why I feel that

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way but there's

496
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this thing changes you this experience

497
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it you know even astronauts are saying

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this now

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it and that's another thing I wanted to

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talk about before we run out of time is

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um and it's the second you know my my

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first problem with safety of fight now

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today

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looking back on this one I didn't

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understand it

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damn guys I I quit my job and I became

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obsessed with this idea that I could

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find the motherload for a 100 year old

509
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guiding um mining clay Mountain the

510
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Wilderness I'm like tell me out this

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Wilderness here in southern Oregon

512
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so

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my my entire family thought I had gone

514
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insane I'm convinced of it I was

515
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suddenly living out in the wilderness my

516
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wife of 20 plus years have left me I was

517
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10 but I was obsessed with this idea

518
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that I could find the motherload and you

519
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know what I did

520
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I did find it and in fact it's there's a

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chance it could become one of the hugest

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finds ever found

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because of the fact that the job type of

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geology is um is called the Josephine

525
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ophiolite and what it is it starts at

526
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the Memphis ocean and it's the spreading

527
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arcs and they're loaded with

528
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hydrothermal that's as you know and

529
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these things lay down mineral deposits

530
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well this whole this whole piece of

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geology goes from Northern California to

532
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Southern Oregon it it came over to the

533
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West Coast United States and instead of

534
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getting subducted because it's so heavy

535
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like um ground number to get subducted

536
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under continental plates because plates

537
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are they float right well an opioid gets

538
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stuck on dry land and that's what we got

539
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here

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and for decades now I mean they've known

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about that it was unminable because it's

542
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in the wilderness and of course and I

543
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agree man you ain't tearing up my

544
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Wilderness no freaking way that place is

545
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primordial and it's beautiful I would

546
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defend it with my life

547
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however when the um

548
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the their moon mission came up with Elon

549
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Musk I said why not I'm going to go

550
00:20:59,630 --> 00:20:57,299
ahead and apply

551
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:59,640
so I applied and I send them all my

552
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,840
research because they wanted to know

553
00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:02,640
okay how does going with us going to

554
00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:03,900
change what you're doing here on the

555
00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:04,620
planet

556
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:07,020
so I applied and I send them all my

557
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,760
research

558
00:21:12,289 --> 00:21:10,559
and about four days later I was right

559
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,299
outside the house and I noticed his um

560
00:21:16,010 --> 00:21:14,159
low flying jet aircraft pure white

561
00:21:16,970 --> 00:21:16,020
flying North and South directly over the

562
00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:16,980
wilderness

563
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:18,840
and I thought now that's really weird

564
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:21,120
that I didn't live in here how I grew up

565
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,860
here and I've never seen any jet fly

566
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:25,200
over that Wilderness I didn't even think

567
00:21:29,570 --> 00:21:26,640
it was legal

568
00:21:33,230 --> 00:21:29,580
it turns out it was a NASA flight on a

569
00:21:34,730 --> 00:21:33,240
geodetic mission and I send you the I

570
00:21:35,930 --> 00:21:34,740
got pictures of it I don't know if I

571
00:21:37,490 --> 00:21:35,940
sent it to you guys or not but I sure

572
00:21:40,909 --> 00:21:37,500
will I'll send you my I'll show you all

573
00:21:42,529 --> 00:21:40,919
my research and you you do have it no I

574
00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:42,539
don't we we would like to see it though

575
00:21:51,470 --> 00:21:49,610
the thing you okay why must right well

576
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:51,480
the thing is it in part of my

577
00:21:55,850 --> 00:21:53,460
application I included the suggestion

578
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,860
hey uh sir with your new boring

579
00:21:59,870 --> 00:21:57,360
technology he's putting in the tunnels

580
00:22:03,289 --> 00:21:59,880
between LA and Las Vegas you might be

581
00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:03,299
able to repurpose that to mine something

582
00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:05,100
like an old fee like from below the

583
00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:06,600
ground and never touch a blade of grass

584
00:22:14,990 --> 00:22:12,409
think about it and when he says boring

585
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,000
he doesn't mean boring he means no he

586
00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:16,799
means making tunnels drilling yeah

587
00:22:25,149 --> 00:22:18,740
kicking rocks out of the ground yeah

588
00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:28,010
and you wonder how okay how much are we

589
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:29,880
talking about Kevin

590
00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:31,860
um I think it's trillions with a capital

591
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:35,100
T man wow and there there's Metals there

592
00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:36,480
are minerals down there's gold I mean we

593
00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:38,520
had gold right but there's more than

594
00:22:42,649 --> 00:22:40,860
gold down there's um there's every Rare

595
00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:42,659
Element on the planet my grandpa was

596
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,280
telling these stories about it

597
00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:46,320
and the the whole reason why I even

598
00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:48,360
figured it out is because

599
00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:50,100
when I first became aware of it I was

600
00:22:54,649 --> 00:22:52,200
thinking gold nuggets like all the gold

601
00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:54,659
mining here right he said no Kevin you

602
00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:55,860
got it wrong I said what do you mean sir

603
00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:58,260
he said the stuff we were getting and we

604
00:23:02,409 --> 00:23:00,600
probably lost more than we ever found

605
00:23:05,090 --> 00:23:02,419
when you looked at it through a

606
00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:05,100
microscope magnifying like snowflakes

607
00:23:08,750 --> 00:23:07,140
they're like what

608
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:08,760
because I'm thinking to my mind okay if

609
00:23:12,409 --> 00:23:10,440
it traveled at all it's gonna look like

610
00:23:13,789 --> 00:23:12,419
a little tiny ball bearings and could it

611
00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:13,799
gets gonna get it's soft it's going to

612
00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:15,960
get beat up it can't be coming from very

613
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,120
far away from where they're getting it

614
00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:19,919
and that kind of one thing led to

615
00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:21,780
another and I was able to figure out the

616
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:24,600
whole opioid thing and Bam there you go

617
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,960
I I in my heart or hearts and I know

618
00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:29,039
this sounds

619
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:31,620
fill in the bank with the cuss word

620
00:23:40,850 --> 00:23:32,820
I

621
00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:40,860
suddenly becoming obsessed with this

622
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,179
idea and then

623
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,400
turning it in to something that could

624
00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:46,559
quite literally take us to space

625
00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:48,059
exploration because we need those

626
00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:50,220
there's there's minerals down there that

627
00:23:53,570 --> 00:23:52,620
we need for space exploration believe it

628
00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:53,580
or not

629
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:56,580
and what about our national debt

630
00:24:01,310 --> 00:23:59,760
I I believe there's enough wealth down

631
00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:01,320
in this ground right below my feet right

632
00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:02,220
here

633
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:08,820
because I know it sounds crazy but it's

634
00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:10,919
because of the type and the size of the

635
00:24:16,010 --> 00:24:14,039
geology that I'm talking about

636
00:24:18,769 --> 00:24:16,020
that's the reason right there

637
00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:18,779
well I mean we don't know well DJ here's

638
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,700
my problem yeah so

639
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:23,039
the issue that I have today

640
00:24:27,289 --> 00:24:24,840
is when I was going through all these

641
00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:27,299
changes um my family had thought I had

642
00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:28,860
gone insane and that was just me and

643
00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:31,260
other people had kind of had similar

644
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,460
experiences

645
00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:34,559
um that I've talked to since then but

646
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,299
here's my question

647
00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:38,220
what if

648
00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:42,659
there was a worldwide Mass contact event

649
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,059
and every single person on this planet

650
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,700
started to change like I did and nobody

651
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,679
knew why or how

652
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:51,840
I'm telling you brother that might not

653
00:24:57,710 --> 00:24:55,140
end well for us Mastery and I I think

654
00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:57,720
that I think that is the reason why

655
00:25:02,450 --> 00:24:59,820
whatever this is

656
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:02,460
has avoided us because they they know

657
00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:05,220
that a mass contact event might not end

658
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:07,260
well for this planet

659
00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:09,000
and I think they learned that lesson

660
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:10,919
maybe centuries ago when they did try to

661
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:13,440
contact us and it didn't end well

662
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:17,279
yeah I think I I've I've been working on

663
00:25:21,169 --> 00:25:19,260
that hypothesis for a couple of weeks

664
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:21,179
now talked to Nathan about it haven't

665
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:22,860
talked with Deb about it yet but I will

666
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,580
and um it's uh not one of the things

667
00:25:31,490 --> 00:25:28,799
that I I'm happy about is certain

668
00:25:34,610 --> 00:25:31,500
people's reactions to things like Tic

669
00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:34,620
Tac that uh attempts to say this didn't

670
00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:37,080
happen it's human technology it's not

671
00:25:41,149 --> 00:25:39,659
real and even some even more ridiculous

672
00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:41,159
things that I wouldn't even repeat on

673
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:43,860
air that I read this week but uh but you

674
00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:46,080
are not among those people right now and

675
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:48,840
um Kev I'm going to turn you over to our

676
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,039
researcher the host of Deb's data Dojo

677
00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:00,289
hi so I wanted to

678
00:26:04,669 --> 00:26:02,520
um instead of just doing a question I

679
00:26:06,850 --> 00:26:04,679
wanted to give you a chance to make a

680
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:06,860
statement if you want to other

681
00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:09,480
experiencers or the public in general

682
00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:12,360
kind of about what you've been through

683
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:14,100
um and I just wanted to give you room to

684
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,720
do that

685
00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:17,820
so I guess if you needed in a question

686
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,500
it's what would you say to the public

687
00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:22,559
about what happened for those who may

688
00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:29,870
um don't be afraid

689
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:32,460
yeah do not be do not be afraid just

690
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:34,980
like the ancient words said

691
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,529
if you if you encounter these things

692
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:41,039
there

693
00:26:49,130 --> 00:26:47,039
to change you and and if you let it

694
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:49,140
you don't freak out and it you know we

695
00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:51,720
don't they come on glued it's going to

696
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:53,400
make you a better person

697
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:54,840
somehow

698
00:26:58,370 --> 00:26:57,000
in some way it can give you new ability

699
00:27:01,310 --> 00:26:58,380
believe it or not can give you new

700
00:27:03,470 --> 00:27:01,320
abilities new talents out of the blue

701
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:03,480
new talents

702
00:27:08,029 --> 00:27:04,860
um you can suddenly become more

703
00:27:09,409 --> 00:27:08,039
compassionate care about people

704
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:09,419
um

705
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:12,779
and I mean maybe it changes all in

706
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:14,340
slightly different ways and for me it

707
00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:16,740
turned off any

708
00:27:22,909 --> 00:27:20,340
any and I've never been a um hungry for

709
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:22,919
money type of guy anyway but I I don't

710
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:25,860
have any interest in that you know what

711
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:28,440
I I'm I'm comfortable and I'm happy and

712
00:27:34,490 --> 00:27:30,659
I love my family and people around me in

713
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:34,500
my community and my nine dogs and um

714
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:36,000
you know what yeah

715
00:27:41,149 --> 00:27:38,700
they're I don't want to go out you know

716
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,159
I I like like all of you I watch movies

717
00:27:45,169 --> 00:27:43,440
and listen to modern rock and all that

718
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:45,179
stuff and I look at these people doing

719
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:46,919
those performances and God bless them

720
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:47,880
you know what

721
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:52,080
the ugly side of it is those people bust

722
00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:53,640
their butts man

723
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,980
that's hard work they're very nice they

724
00:27:59,690 --> 00:27:57,360
don't have you know they don't have the

725
00:28:02,090 --> 00:27:59,700
life I have and I don't want to lose

726
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,100
this by doing something like that myself

727
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:03,840
no way

728
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,159
that's going and

729
00:28:13,010 --> 00:28:10,799
um very easy picky about who I talk to

730
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:13,020
about this and stuff

731
00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:14,120
um

732
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:16,740
I'm not looking to make a fortune out of

733
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:18,299
this I don't it's hard to explain but

734
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,460
that's how I feel we're very grateful

735
00:28:24,529 --> 00:28:22,500
that we're among the people that you

736
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:24,539
talk to especially today on your

737
00:28:31,789 --> 00:28:25,520
birthday

738
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,799
missed it we did hang sing him happy

739
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:34,320
birthday backstage tupacabra you could

740
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:35,940
have been there because you could have

741
00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:38,220
offered that baritone that we needed uh

742
00:28:42,169 --> 00:28:40,740
we didn't have the baritone so uh but

743
00:28:44,049 --> 00:28:42,179
you know what I'm gonna forgive you you

744
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,059
can do it when you come on air with us

745
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:46,799
uh Deb did you have follow-up are we

746
00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:48,779
going to Steph now

747
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,980
um I think we're ready to hear what

748
00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:51,600
Steph has to say

749
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,380
yeah Stephanie hey hello and yes thank

750
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:58,080
you for your service uh it's an honor to

751
00:29:01,610 --> 00:28:59,820
have you here and you know behind the

752
00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:01,620
scenes I was saying well you know we

753
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:03,299
need to roll out the red carpet for you

754
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:07,080
because truly I mean your vulnerability

755
00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:11,039
and the place that you were put into to

756
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:13,740
the way that you were made to feel

757
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:16,980
um really does speak volumes as to you

758
00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:20,159
know where your mind was in this you

759
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:23,159
were ready to say hey look I don't care

760
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,340
what anybody above me says this is my

761
00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:30,000
moment now to tell you what I I

762
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,460
witnessed and I'm I'm tired of people

763
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:34,679
being made to feel that way so I just

764
00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:36,899
appreciate your vulnerability and coming

765
00:29:40,669 --> 00:29:39,000
forth and speaking about it and

766
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:40,679
hopefully we'll see you you know in

767
00:29:45,289 --> 00:29:43,020
front of Congress and you know showing

768
00:29:48,409 --> 00:29:45,299
the data that you guys had that on radar

769
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,419
that you collected and you know

770
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:51,600
that just thank you I I uh I I just

771
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:55,200
can't I can't say that enough because I

772
00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,380
do I do speak with experiencers on it on

773
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:00,419
a pretty regular basis but they're

774
00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:04,980
civilians so we uh the civilians uh

775
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,080
we're very excited to have you here

776
00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:09,120
speaking for us because really you're

777
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:11,399
the one that's serving as that platform

778
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:15,600
to um for experiencers so there there

779
00:30:22,730 --> 00:30:20,120
you go here you are and here we are

780
00:30:24,769 --> 00:30:22,740
DJ can relate to us being military is

781
00:30:26,830 --> 00:30:24,779
our leadership in place that's right

782
00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:26,840
that's what it is yeah

783
00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:30,299
yes lead from the place the moment where

784
00:30:34,909 --> 00:30:32,360
you're at that's it right

785
00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:34,919
yeah and and well that's what we need

786
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:37,559
and that's what you're serving as so

787
00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:40,919
um I did uh I did want to mention and we

788
00:30:44,529 --> 00:30:42,840
had it kind of uh Nathan kind of

789
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:44,539
mentioned it already about

790
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:48,000
ex-service members and veterans that had

791
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:51,840
experiences well I did have a a veteran

792
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:54,000
come forth that wanted to speak about

793
00:30:58,250 --> 00:30:55,260
something that had happened at

794
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,260
Vandenberg and Vandenberg is Southern

795
00:31:04,009 --> 00:31:00,240
California for some of you who don't

796
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:04,019
know and you know as he was talking

797
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:07,740
about it you could tell that he had this

798
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,120
kind of an anxious kind of thing about

799
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:14,760
everything that he was kind of like

800
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:16,440
unveiling we'll just say

801
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,059
and so he uh he actually kind of stepped

802
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,799
back a little bit because he wasn't

803
00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:25,200
ready to actually speak about it but he

804
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:27,720
is a military member that you know

805
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:29,700
they're they're wanting to kind of dust

806
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,380
off the cobwebs and they're coming out

807
00:31:36,649 --> 00:31:33,840
of the woodwork because of these types

808
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:36,659
of events so is there anything else that

809
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:39,299
you would say to to speak directly to

810
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:41,820
those individuals

811
00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:44,460
hang in there and you're not crazy yes

812
00:31:48,529 --> 00:31:46,679
yeah exactly and that and that's the

813
00:31:50,810 --> 00:31:48,539
thing is people don't want to think that

814
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:50,820
there's something that wrong with them

815
00:31:54,649 --> 00:31:52,860
you know they need to know hey I'm okay

816
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:54,659
cool

817
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,840
yeah and I I want to say that I find

818
00:32:01,690 --> 00:31:59,760
people that that do come out and talk

819
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:01,700
about this like Stephanie like yourself

820
00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:05,340
to be very brave and I come at that from

821
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:08,460
the perspective that when I was 14 I was

822
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:11,880
uh I or 15. I I think it actually might

823
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:14,100
have been 15. I saw I had a sighting in

824
00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:16,200
the Hudson Valley and I didn't tell my

825
00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:17,960
mother or my father or my brother

826
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:21,539
because I had the fear of being made fun

827
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,080
of uh but uh folks like yourself like

828
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,600
Stephanie were able to overcome that and

829
00:32:32,509 --> 00:32:29,100
talk about it and say damn it I'm going

830
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,519
to talk about it so uh very courageous

831
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,559
um yeah the other thing I want to say is

832
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:37,200
that we thought that one Kevin wasn't

833
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:40,140
quite enough so we wanted to bring in

834
00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:42,360
another one and that is our very own

835
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:51,049
hello Kevin welcome nice to meet you

836
00:32:58,909 --> 00:32:53,340
nice name yeah you got the traffic jam

837
00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,649
um did you want to jump in with your

838
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:02,640
question right now Kev

839
00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:04,260
um let me see where you guys are at

840
00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:07,380
first I just got off work um yeah I even

841
00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:08,840
got myself

842
00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:14,870
I better not say Chico bail bonds or

843
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,919
it's going to remind Uh Kevin and I have

844
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:19,679
Bad News Bears uh anyway

845
00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:22,260
um no actually uh we have two uh mental

846
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,360
health professionals that work with uh

847
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:26,880
kid uh in the case of Deb kids and

848
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,700
adults and kids in the case of Kevin and

849
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:32,159
we're extremely proud of of uh the

850
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:35,940
mentorship and the uh the uh uh the what

851
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:38,159
would you call it uh the therapy that

852
00:33:42,169 --> 00:33:40,200
they provide uh people who need it so

853
00:33:46,009 --> 00:33:42,179
thank you

854
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:46,019
um so here's a question that I have Kev

855
00:33:52,850 --> 00:33:50,580
so why if you were to take a guess

856
00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:52,860
why and so we're just speculating here

857
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:54,600
because we don't know but why do you

858
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,299
suppose that that particular phenomenon

859
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:00,000
decided to jam Underwood's targeting

860
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,899
radar but not your spy one radar do you

861
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:06,000
believe that it's because it it could

862
00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:08,520
sense that your spy one radar was not a

863
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:11,099
threat and that his targeting radar was

864
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,320
a threat or what's your hypothesis on

865
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:14,639
that

866
00:34:21,770 --> 00:34:19,200
ever heard actually yeah

867
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:21,780
I would if there was a reason that might

868
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:25,760
be it yeah eat wow I had a good theory

869
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:27,919
oh my God

870
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,359
hit the time stamp I mean I'm just

871
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,879
kidding I mean I mean just like us right

872
00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:34,320
um whatever these objects are they're

873
00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:36,780
gonna um they're gonna sort threats in

874
00:34:40,490 --> 00:34:39,000
the order of highest to lowest so maybe

875
00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:40,500
that's what it was doing

876
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:43,020
um it uh interpreted that plane's radar

877
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,419
is the highest threat

878
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,359
so it decided to jam it just in case I I

879
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:50,639
a great question

880
00:34:54,409 --> 00:34:53,099
and if there is an answer that that's

881
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:54,419
likely it

882
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,940
it's a high RF energy you know it's a

883
00:35:01,849 --> 00:34:59,040
different energy than than the Spy one

884
00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:01,859
you know so I yeah I've I've felt it's

885
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:04,380
like a pencil beam yeah yes it's like a

886
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:06,420
laser compared to a full you know full

887
00:35:10,849 --> 00:35:09,000
spectrum yeah wait when anybody says

888
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,859
laser we have to do the Dr Evil

889
00:35:15,790 --> 00:35:12,720
quotation marks yeah so if you don't

890
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,800
thank you certainly all right

891
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:17,359
Nathan

892
00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:21,359
not not my term yeah there you go uh so

893
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:23,940
Kevin I we all um I think saw a tear in

894
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,500
the sky really enjoyed the film really

895
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,880
exciting to see like the science

896
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:29,040
happening and what you guys are able to

897
00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:30,320
capture

898
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:32,700
did you come away with the feeling that

899
00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:34,740
uh really this kind of activities

900
00:35:38,089 --> 00:35:36,660
happening pretty much everywhere all the

901
00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:38,099
time what's your feeling there what's

902
00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:40,740
your intuition on it

903
00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:42,540
oh my God

904
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,060
I you know I I hesitate all the all the

905
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:47,400
time to ask why me you know because it

906
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:49,680
sounds so damn egotistical and I don't

907
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:51,720
mean it to be that way but I can't and

908
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:53,820
other people have asked me too it's like

909
00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:55,380
how come

910
00:35:59,810 --> 00:35:57,000
you you were the one that found him on

911
00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:59,820
radar Kevin and intercepted him and then

912
00:36:04,609 --> 00:36:01,619
in years go by and all of a sudden you

913
00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:04,619
form this uh non-profit organization you

914
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,180
guys will go off the coast and there

915
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:07,760
they are again

916
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,220
how how are you and why are you

917
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:13,920
connected to these things somehow

918
00:36:17,329 --> 00:36:15,180
and

919
00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:17,339
I don't know a don't know that I am

920
00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:20,579
right it's just a it's a a coincidence

921
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:23,099
and uh call it luck or unluck I don't

922
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:24,900
know even know what the how did it put

923
00:36:30,109 --> 00:36:26,700
my arms around it

924
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:30,119
um but it's a legitimate question not

925
00:36:33,290 --> 00:36:31,980
and I guess we'll see when we go out on

926
00:36:35,089 --> 00:36:33,300
the third one if we find him again

927
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:35,099
because I I think these things are a

928
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:36,900
real and I have for many many many many

929
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:39,599
years in the government now says that

930
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:43,200
I think b or they're findable and would

931
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:44,640
you just proven that off the coast of

932
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:46,619
California we deliberately went and we

933
00:36:51,290 --> 00:36:49,800
we did find them we got data I mean the

934
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:51,300
data zero is getting crunched in

935
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:52,680
academic papers right now from

936
00:36:58,430 --> 00:36:55,020
University at Albany New York

937
00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:58,440
and and see I believe these things are

938
00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:02,990
if we can at least begin to understand

939
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:05,099
what this is

940
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:07,560
those three things I believe and in my

941
00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:10,680
lifetime I hope I hope to prove it

942
00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:12,900
and if that's my contribution to this

943
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:16,500
planet before I pass to then I'm happy

944
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,660
and and can I say something Kevin this

945
00:37:23,569 --> 00:37:20,880
is for you and in the community we don't

946
00:37:26,089 --> 00:37:23,579
have to know why that you were there and

947
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,099
why you observed it and why you know the

948
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:28,320
fact that you were there we why should

949
00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:30,180
we worry about things that we can't

950
00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:32,040
control there are people in the

951
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:34,020
community who are very very caught up in

952
00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:37,020
worrying about oh my God if we don't

953
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:39,540
know what this phenomenon is and we

954
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:42,720
can't control it then exactly we can't

955
00:37:47,150 --> 00:37:45,300
control it and we don't know so I'm not

956
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,160
gonna I'm not gonna lie that's my

957
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:49,440
concern yeah exactly yeah I'm not going

958
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,940
to get concerned about where we can

959
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,040
observe it we can get together like we

960
00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:55,200
are now and have discussions about it we

961
00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:56,760
can throw some theories around it we're

962
00:38:00,589 --> 00:37:58,920
thankful that someone who is on the most

963
00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:00,599
advanced radar in the world at the time

964
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:03,240
got to see one and collect data we don't

965
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:04,940
have to why

966
00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:08,880
as far as why you or why not you or are

967
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:10,500
you special are you not special let's

968
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,180
just think about what we're seeing and

969
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:13,920
analyze it we just looked at a couple

970
00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:16,380
things about the radar uh why did it Jam

971
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:18,359
this radar not that that's interesting

972
00:38:22,849 --> 00:38:20,579
point of conversation there there are

973
00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:22,859
hundreds and thousands of interesting

974
00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:24,900
points to talk about without getting

975
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:27,000
into it's real it's not real obviously

976
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:29,400
it's real uh and let's just think see if

977
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:31,020
we can kick it around and use our brain

978
00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:34,680
power instead of worrying about it

979
00:38:39,170 --> 00:38:37,560
amen DJ and you just um paraphrase my

980
00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:39,180
response to people when they ask me that

981
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:39,900
question

982
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,420
we don't need to worry about why it's

983
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:44,880
just worry about how how do we figure

984
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:47,160
this out at this point yeah let's figure

985
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:49,859
out let's work on the how part yeah why

986
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,260
was it Kevin why was it Gary what it

987
00:38:56,569 --> 00:38:54,720
doesn't matter why they were there why

988
00:38:58,910 --> 00:38:56,579
was it Stephanie who cares she was there

989
00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:58,920
she saw it yeah now let's talk about

990
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,980
what you saw you know or you saw amen

991
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:03,300
amen

992
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:05,640
and I think money needs to be put in

993
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:07,560
place to do exactly that

994
00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:11,220
and that's going to happen at Congress

995
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:13,560
um and also private private um industry

996
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:15,420
as well and that's happening too by the

997
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,760
way yep

998
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:18,960
is that right are you getting some good

999
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:20,400
feelers there's new tech there's new

1000
00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:21,720
technologies that are going to come out

1001
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:23,160
of this and stuff like that I mean

1002
00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:24,660
there's space travel and all the whole

1003
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:26,780
nine yards yeah

1004
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,520
would you like to talk about 1.6

1005
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,920
gigahertz because uh the guys from

1006
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,839
Skinwalker said that you guys were

1007
00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:36,240
seeing uh you were getting spikes and

1008
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:39,980
hits uh uh that you would you would um

1009
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:42,660
uh basically would be at the same time

1010
00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:45,240
parallel uh you were getting a 1.6

1011
00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:47,400
gigahertz uh Spike and then something

1012
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:49,260
would happen or you would see something

1013
00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:51,660
can you can you speak about that a

1014
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,220
little bit

1015
00:39:59,390 --> 00:39:55,440
um whatever these things are

1016
00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:59,400
um of SoCal else I mean

1017
00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:02,040
that I was I was more involved with the

1018
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:03,480
operational aspects of all this stuff

1019
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:04,980
because we had scientists there with all

1020
00:40:09,050 --> 00:40:07,380
the tech gear and stuff so they are the

1021
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:09,060
true experts on that part of it if you

1022
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:12,000
will I was more of the um the organizer

1023
00:40:14,809 --> 00:40:13,500
the manager kind of guy and made it all

1024
00:40:17,329 --> 00:40:14,819
happen

1025
00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:17,339
but whatever this hole in the sky was

1026
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:19,740
there was objects solid objects that

1027
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,000
came through them and when that happened

1028
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:23,760
we got gamma-ray we got we detected

1029
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:25,140
gamma rays

1030
00:40:30,109 --> 00:40:28,740
and um Kevin knuth comes Dr knuth comes

1031
00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:30,119
up to me says Hey Kevin I know you don't

1032
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,380
know what you're really looking at here

1033
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:34,079
but that's a gamma ray Spike

1034
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,940
and I said sir what's the significance

1035
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:37,440
of that he said what you've seen there

1036
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,420
because we just got one a

1037
00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:41,280
just a short time ago or about a million

1038
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:43,800
to one get them that close together

1039
00:40:50,089 --> 00:40:46,980
or more than that and it stunned me I

1040
00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:53,569
um I I knew and I knew in that moment we

1041
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:56,280
had stumbled upon something truly

1042
00:41:01,010 --> 00:40:57,900
phenomenal again

1043
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:01,020
in and it showed up for us

1044
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:03,839
it showed up for us for some reason I

1045
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:05,160
mean how do you explain it unless

1046
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,660
there's been unless it's there all the

1047
00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:08,880
time and if you go back tomorrow and set

1048
00:41:11,870 --> 00:41:09,900
up your gear you're going to find them

1049
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:11,880
again like some other team off the east

1050
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:14,280
coast does it anyone that does it can go

1051
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:16,740
find them at any time but sure I'm open

1052
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,839
to that if that's the case my mind's

1053
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:19,920
open

1054
00:41:24,589 --> 00:41:22,440
but all I know at this moment is we went

1055
00:41:26,809 --> 00:41:24,599
there and uh Our intention was to to

1056
00:41:30,349 --> 00:41:26,819
find them when we did

1057
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:30,359
and this time the data isn't locked up

1058
00:41:34,010 --> 00:41:32,040
in the military Vault this time or

1059
00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:34,020
government Vault this time it's in the

1060
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,980
academic Community the actual data and

1061
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:40,319
my hat's off the entire to the entire

1062
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:41,579
team

1063
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:44,460
David Mason the um he's out of Florida

1064
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:46,680
he's invented a lot of this Gary the

1065
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:48,180
guy's a genius

1066
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:50,220
you know we used a lot of his gear we

1067
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,660
used a lot of the quantum physicist

1068
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,760
stuff out of their laboratory in New

1069
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:54,900
York

1070
00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:56,760
um we got data that's probably never

1071
00:42:00,589 --> 00:41:59,640
been collected by for before it

1072
00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,599
um

1073
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:02,579
most certainly at least by a civilian

1074
00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:05,220
team in Oregon you know a non-profit at

1075
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:06,839
that you know none of us are in this to

1076
00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:08,940
make money far from it

1077
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,980
I've spent more than I care to say about

1078
00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:13,200
you know

1079
00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:15,720
he was awesome we had to do it all again

1080
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:18,839
I'd do it all again

1081
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,180
yeah Dave Mason blew our mind up with

1082
00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:23,280
some of the things that he was uh some

1083
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:24,660
of the things that he was bringing up on

1084
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:26,339
here like the sound waves and stuff and

1085
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:29,220
I was like but uh Steph wanted to Chum

1086
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:30,420
me in with something and then we have

1087
00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:34,020
Deb's uh uh Debs will have a chance with

1088
00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:35,940
yeah well

1089
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:38,300
um the next experiment that you guys do

1090
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,400
I think as a suggestion it would be

1091
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:44,400
really cool to have the triangle broaden

1092
00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:48,240
to Vandenberg 29 palms and Catalina so

1093
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,280
almost just kind of expanding that out a

1094
00:42:55,069 --> 00:42:53,520
little bit whiter because when I I yeah

1095
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:55,079
I mean I think that that would be a

1096
00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:57,900
perfect triangle I um when I did witness

1097
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:00,900
it it was over the mountain from 29

1098
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:04,859
Palms so uh there is definitely a lot of

1099
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:06,660
activity near Joshua Tree I know you're

1100
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:11,520
aware so you know maybe it's their Air

1101
00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:13,680
Force Base and then Vandenberg of course

1102
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:16,619
would be a perfect spot so just a

1103
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:18,359
suggestion I don't know if you guys are

1104
00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:20,220
there yet or if Caroline's open to

1105
00:43:26,089 --> 00:43:23,060
suggestions but yeah

1106
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,099
triangle I'm sorry Nathan yeah no

1107
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:28,560
seriously yeah three teams with a

1108
00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:31,020
similar gear at three locations yeah and

1109
00:43:36,349 --> 00:43:33,960
uh triangulate these things yep exactly

1110
00:43:38,329 --> 00:43:36,359
volunteering Deb for the uh the part

1111
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:38,339
that's out near Joshua Tree she'll be

1112
00:43:45,890 --> 00:43:40,260
there with her gear I think it sounds

1113
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,690
you guys can help us organize the whole

1114
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:48,960
thing because that's where a lot of the

1115
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,000
work goes before most the work happens

1116
00:43:55,569 --> 00:43:53,040
before you even step foot on ground of

1117
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:57,890
all the logistics

1118
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,000
these people can organize let me tell

1119
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:02,400
you now so all right devs what you got

1120
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,210
um I just wanted to know if you've had

1121
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:11,280
any other experiences since the initial

1122
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,790
uh since the initial one no I have it in

1123
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:19,380
fact uh before the show went on air we

1124
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:20,880
were talking about Bigfoot now uh

1125
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:22,140
Southern Oregon

1126
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:23,880
um the Illinois Valley and of course

1127
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:26,040
this is Bigfoot country in fact I lived

1128
00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:27,599
in a little town called Cave Junction

1129
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,579
the Oregon Caves are right up the road

1130
00:44:32,510 --> 00:44:31,200
for me beautiful if you've never been or

1131
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:32,520
marble caves

1132
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:35,940
and I grew up here and I spent more time

1133
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,400
in that Wilderness than probably 99.9

1134
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:40,800
percent of the people living here

1135
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:41,960
um

1136
00:44:46,569 --> 00:44:45,839
I have never seen a Bigfoot

1137
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,579
um

1138
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:48,960
it doesn't mean anything because other

1139
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,520
people certainly have and I believe them

1140
00:44:53,569 --> 00:44:52,800
why would they freaking lie about that I

1141
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,579
mean

1142
00:44:57,050 --> 00:44:55,440
but I'm talking about firemen and police

1143
00:44:58,849 --> 00:44:57,060
off people with credibility you know

1144
00:45:00,829 --> 00:44:58,859
like they don't have no reason to lie

1145
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:00,839
about that it's just me I've never seen

1146
00:45:07,490 --> 00:45:04,200
one out is it related to whatever is out

1147
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:07,500
there in the sky possibly uh the same

1148
00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:09,240
question goes for whales

1149
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,660
uh I personally going back to 2004 I was

1150
00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:14,400
an avid whale Watcher during my Navy

1151
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,020
days right

1152
00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:18,359
um this afternoon in November the whales

1153
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:20,460
tend to they migrate from Catalina down

1154
00:45:24,530 --> 00:45:22,200
to Guadalupe island off the coast of

1155
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:24,540
Mexico and every we had we tracked about

1156
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,280
100 of these objects in groups of five

1157
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:28,800
to ten at a time between I don't know

1158
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,020
over the course of maybe seven days add

1159
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,880
them all up about 100 contacts every

1160
00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:34,800
single one of them disappeared off my

1161
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:36,420
radar remember we're moving all over the

1162
00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:38,520
ocean so my radar envelopes moving with

1163
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:40,980
us right but every one of these objects

1164
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:43,260
move disappeared off radar depend not

1165
00:45:48,290 --> 00:45:44,760
matter where we were

1166
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:48,300
directly over Guadalupe Island

1167
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:50,520
I think they are related to the whales

1168
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,040
and because of that I it's not

1169
00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:55,200
impossible they could be related to the

1170
00:45:59,150 --> 00:45:57,300
Bigfoot phenomenon could be related as

1171
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,160
well my mind is open on that question

1172
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:01,200
I've never seen women it doesn't mean

1173
00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:02,520
it's not real

1174
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:05,940
I was in the UFO guy either until 2004

1175
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:09,240
it didn't mean they weren't real just

1176
00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:11,220
because I wasn't aware of it

1177
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,670
yeah some dumb guy

1178
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,280
thank you

1179
00:46:23,329 --> 00:46:21,359
Dad do you have anything else are we

1180
00:46:25,069 --> 00:46:23,339
going to Kevin Kevin is yeah I want to

1181
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,079
hear Kevin we haven't heard well other

1182
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,119
Kevin we haven't heard Flair in a long

1183
00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:29,640
time yeah I'm excited

1184
00:46:34,970 --> 00:46:33,240
yeah so Kevin hi I wanted to thank you

1185
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:34,980
first of all for coming forward for your

1186
00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:37,920
bravery I you know I really respect that

1187
00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:40,440
I had an experience too I not quite like

1188
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:42,359
yours I just had a time lost experience

1189
00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,000
but so one of the things um that irks me

1190
00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:47,460
about the this the UFO Community is it

1191
00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:49,500
seems to be the need to translate

1192
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,619
all these experiences through a cultural

1193
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:54,839
lens you know and it's like oh it's

1194
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,000
Bigfoot or it's oh it's Grays or oh it's

1195
00:47:00,290 --> 00:46:58,800
Jesus you know I don't think that the

1196
00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:00,300
cultural lens will Aid in our

1197
00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:02,040
understanding I think that unless it's

1198
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,720
us it's going to be outside of our

1199
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:06,420
culture you know so I think

1200
00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:07,920
you know whatever it is it defies

1201
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,480
rational thought you know that being

1202
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,000
said do you think that um our current

1203
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,640
culture of reductionism may be too

1204
00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:16,560
shallow to fully comprehend the

1205
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:19,079
phenomenon

1206
00:47:25,609 --> 00:47:23,280
ooh huh man that that is a great

1207
00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:27,049
it

1208
00:47:31,309 --> 00:47:29,339
I wish I could say yes

1209
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:31,319
but just the fact that these objects

1210
00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:34,079
whatever they are have avoided us for

1211
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:36,260
millennial

1212
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:40,140
screams know at me because I think these

1213
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:42,300
objects whatever this thing is they know

1214
00:47:45,170 --> 00:47:44,220
that if they

1215
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:45,180
um

1216
00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:47,460
announce themselves on a worldwide scale

1217
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:49,619
it might not end well for this planet

1218
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:51,240
because it's going to suddenly change

1219
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:54,000
everyone on the planet yeah and No One's

1220
00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:55,800
Gonna know what the hell is happening

1221
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,020
and if everyone if everyone on the

1222
00:48:02,630 --> 00:47:59,520
planet suddenly went through what I went

1223
00:48:05,150 --> 00:48:02,640
through and man think about it I was

1224
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:05,160
I was very successful you know I was at

1225
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,800
the top of my game and and I ended up in

1226
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:09,660
the freaking Wilderness what what about

1227
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,880
anyone

1228
00:48:16,849 --> 00:48:13,920
what's gonna happen to them

1229
00:48:19,849 --> 00:48:16,859
I know they have a family they're doing

1230
00:48:21,230 --> 00:48:19,859
what you know

1231
00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:21,240
and the same with the rest of the family

1232
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:23,099
you know everyone's going crazy all it

1233
00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:24,720
seems like they're going in actually

1234
00:48:28,250 --> 00:48:26,220
they're not they're just changing and

1235
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:28,260
they don't understand it

1236
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:31,020
and I I think your question is good and

1237
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,180
I think that and I think um I wish I

1238
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:35,520
could say yes but I have to say no

1239
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:38,099
and I just think history itself defends

1240
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,960
me on that answer because I think that's

1241
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,000
the reason why whatever this phenomenon

1242
00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:44,160
is I think that's the reason why they

1243
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:45,960
avoid us

1244
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:49,440
and why now why maybe they think it's

1245
00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:51,480
starting to change

1246
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:54,660
maybe they I'm hoping maybe the time is

1247
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:57,000
beginning to be right

1248
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,680
that I don't think we're quite there yet

1249
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:00,960
I wish I could say otherwise but

1250
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:03,000
I just have to go where the facts are

1251
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:07,549
Kevin

1252
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,500
um we've spoken at length about what you

1253
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:12,000
know and when I I don't mean on this

1254
00:49:16,490 --> 00:49:13,440
broadcast point in the community about

1255
00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,500
what we think the phenomenon is but by

1256
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:18,540
its actions what do you think the

1257
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:21,420
phenomenon thought of your presence

1258
00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:24,839
there uh you and your Shipmates or do

1259
00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:26,460
you think there was an indifference

1260
00:49:31,069 --> 00:49:28,760
there

1261
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:31,079
is a great question

1262
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:35,640
um I think well assuming assuming first

1263
00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:37,319
of all that they were they knew we were

1264
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:39,480
there and they were there because of us

1265
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,839
assuming that's true I mean because that

1266
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:44,640
that could also not be true it's just a

1267
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,200
coincidence there's a luck thing and

1268
00:49:49,309 --> 00:49:48,000
they didn't even care about us they were

1269
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:49,319
doing something else

1270
00:49:54,890 --> 00:49:51,720
but if it is true I think they were

1271
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:58,069
um a they're real

1272
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:00,170
and B

1273
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:05,160
um they uh can ascertain our intentions

1274
00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:07,260
and that to me that was a very clear

1275
00:50:13,069 --> 00:50:09,780
message and I think is that that message

1276
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:13,079
is very useful going forward I really do

1277
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:14,940
because if they know what I'm about to

1278
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,760
do I can use that like um was suggested

1279
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:19,440
earlier

1280
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,540
um the triangulation team

1281
00:50:26,089 --> 00:50:22,400
um

1282
00:50:29,809 --> 00:50:26,099
29 Palm vet you know Vandenberg uh

1283
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:29,819
uh down in SoCal maybe off uh off even

1284
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:32,460
Hawaii or off a ship off the coast and

1285
00:50:37,250 --> 00:50:34,079
[Music]

1286
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:37,260
um and if we do that they will show up

1287
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,870
and they've said it twice now

1288
00:50:50,030 --> 00:50:46,910
at least that's what I hear

1289
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:50,040
who said it twice these objects I mean

1290
00:50:55,549 --> 00:50:53,099
they um well Kevin we talked about this

1291
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,559
earlier um right after Commander Faber's

1292
00:51:00,290 --> 00:50:57,599
intercept that that object whatever he

1293
00:51:02,450 --> 00:51:00,300
intercepted ended up on his combat Air

1294
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:02,460
Patrol station and he hadn't even gone

1295
00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:05,040
there yet it was a secret location

1296
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:07,500
their uh there are side stations we put

1297
00:51:11,089 --> 00:51:10,020
air Crews on to put us between put the

1298
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:11,099
ships between

1299
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,220
um the suspected threat and and us to

1300
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:16,800
protect us and that object that he had

1301
00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:19,020
intercepted went to his assigned not

1302
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:20,700
someone else's to sign cap station but

1303
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:21,599
his

1304
00:51:26,569 --> 00:51:24,660
and to me that was a message it it was

1305
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:26,579
telling us very clearly it knows our

1306
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:28,500
intentions

1307
00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:31,140
and I think that can be useful

1308
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:37,010
Kevin did you

1309
00:51:43,609 --> 00:51:39,960
so the behaviors that have been

1310
00:51:46,849 --> 00:51:43,619
characterized for us at length uh

1311
00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:46,859
regarding the day of the intercept is

1312
00:51:52,030 --> 00:51:49,380
there something in those seven days

1313
00:51:55,549 --> 00:51:52,040
leading up in those tracks that you had

1314
00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:55,559
is there a different behavior that you

1315
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:57,540
observed

1316
00:52:01,849 --> 00:52:00,420
um during those seven days that you were

1317
00:52:06,049 --> 00:52:01,859
getting those tracks

1318
00:52:07,790 --> 00:52:06,059
and those contacts then the day of

1319
00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:07,800
I'm not sure I understand the question

1320
00:52:12,410 --> 00:52:10,500
okay all right so so for seven days

1321
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:12,420
you're you're watching you're seeing him

1322
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,900
come from 80 000 feet uh you clocked it

1323
00:52:20,809 --> 00:52:18,240
at the one point when it went from 28

1324
00:52:23,150 --> 00:52:20,819
000 to to 50 feet but you had seen them

1325
00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:23,160
up as high as 80 000 feet and so there's

1326
00:52:27,650 --> 00:52:24,900
several nights that you're watching

1327
00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:27,660
their behaviors uh and you're tracking

1328
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,359
before you direct and intercept I'm

1329
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,359
curious if there is a different behavior

1330
00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:36,720
that they observed that struck you then

1331
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,020
their behavior on the day of the

1332
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:42,720
intercept itself

1333
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:43,380
um

1334
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:47,760
up until the day of the inner except

1335
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:49,319
they were just boring lights in the sky

1336
00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:51,180
they were going from Catalina Island and

1337
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:52,380
they disappeared off further off

1338
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:53,640
Guadalupe

1339
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,260
there was a couple times I got them on

1340
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,480
radar and I heard and got the relative

1341
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:59,040
you know I got the relative position

1342
00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:01,559
from the ship approximate range ran up

1343
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:02,940
and looked at him through the big eye

1344
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:05,760
binoculars on the bridge and all I got

1345
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,140
to see was a boring white light but

1346
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:08,640
other Bridge watch centers said they

1347
00:53:11,150 --> 00:53:09,900
were doing the erratic movements and

1348
00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:11,160
stuff

1349
00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:12,780
um but I didn't get the opportunity to

1350
00:53:17,390 --> 00:53:14,520
see that but

1351
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:17,400
um once The Intercept occurred

1352
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:20,460
man those things that behaved

1353
00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:21,180
um

1354
00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:23,220
with intent and

1355
00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:25,380
with abilities that are were

1356
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:27,180
unbelievable

1357
00:53:30,829 --> 00:53:28,980
and to this day

1358
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:30,839
you tell me what they what it was I

1359
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,049
was it and if it turns out it was our

1360
00:53:43,870 --> 00:53:38,940
stuff then fine I'm cool with that

1361
00:53:50,089 --> 00:53:46,849
it certainly would make me from from

1362
00:53:51,530 --> 00:53:50,099
this planet not not right yeah it would

1363
00:53:53,150 --> 00:53:51,540
make people a lot more comfortable if

1364
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:53,160
that were the case because then they can

1365
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,440
they have a box to put it in they have a

1366
00:53:59,809 --> 00:53:57,599
context to put it in there's a control

1367
00:54:02,329 --> 00:53:59,819
measure there but if it's not something

1368
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:02,339
from that uh an intelligence we're not

1369
00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:04,020
aware of that scares them because now

1370
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:06,119
it's like I don't know what the hell I

1371
00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:07,920
can't control this thing and I have no

1372
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:09,780
idea what it's going to do but I know

1373
00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:10,740
what I'm going to do I'm going to turn

1374
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,490
um so there's a show my kids like to

1375
00:54:20,510 --> 00:54:18,240
watch called Domino Masters I don't know

1376
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:20,520
if you've heard of it but I did not know

1377
00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:22,260
and I don't know if you deal with this

1378
00:54:26,089 --> 00:54:23,880
either but there are folks in in the

1379
00:54:27,650 --> 00:54:26,099
world who spend a lot of time

1380
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:27,660
playing with dominoes and they line them

1381
00:54:30,589 --> 00:54:29,400
up and they knock them down and they

1382
00:54:32,809 --> 00:54:30,599
make all these amazingly beautiful

1383
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:32,819
creations at the End of This what they

1384
00:54:36,290 --> 00:54:34,260
call the topple which is when the last

1385
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:36,300
Domino Falls you can kind of see this

1386
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:38,760
entire field of things that are laid

1387
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:41,520
before your eyes and it's you know often

1388
00:54:45,049 --> 00:54:43,500
very beautiful they've kind of made The

1389
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,059
Dominoes fall in such a way to create

1390
00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:47,760
these you know beautiful patterns if you

1391
00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:50,700
didn't know it you you how dominoes work

1392
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:52,440
you might be mystified as to kind of

1393
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,420
like how that came about I get the sense

1394
00:54:57,890 --> 00:54:56,400
from listening to you that there's kind

1395
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:57,900
of a design there's almost like a

1396
00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:00,720
purpose behind the way in which this

1397
00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:02,760
phenomena seems to be engaging with

1398
00:55:06,589 --> 00:55:05,220
Humanity do you do you think that that

1399
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:06,599
is the case do you think that it's kind

1400
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:08,700
of reaching out and and sort of

1401
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:11,160
activating or or sparking the minds or

1402
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:13,020
imaginations of specific people so that

1403
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,540
they can be like those dominoes they can

1404
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:18,000
fall in certain ways to create something

1405
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:19,500
that that we wouldn't be able to create

1406
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:21,420
otherwise

1407
00:55:26,030 --> 00:55:25,260
my short answer is yes I I believe there

1408
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:26,040
is

1409
00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:27,240
um

1410
00:55:37,069 --> 00:55:34,859
believe they're they they must have some

1411
00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:37,079
sort of agenda or why the hell would

1412
00:55:40,490 --> 00:55:38,579
they show themselves

1413
00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:40,500
um not only in 2000 before but other

1414
00:55:46,329 --> 00:55:41,640
times too

1415
00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:50,329
go ahead do you think that it's uh do

1416
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,660
you think what role do you think time

1417
00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:53,520
plays in this you know we talked about

1418
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:56,220
the cap point and how odd that was is

1419
00:56:01,010 --> 00:55:58,680
our notion of time just sort of broken

1420
00:56:03,770 --> 00:56:01,020
we need to revise our understanding of

1421
00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:03,780
how time flows

1422
00:56:09,530 --> 00:56:07,020
well yeah likely I mean our lifespan if

1423
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:09,540
we're lucky to about 80 years or so I

1424
00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:10,619
mean

1425
00:56:14,210 --> 00:56:12,900
let's just take the Great Pyramids for

1426
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:14,220
example

1427
00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:17,339
um I think we would be challenged at

1428
00:56:20,750 --> 00:56:19,319
this moment to build those

1429
00:56:22,849 --> 00:56:20,760
how in the hell did they build them

1430
00:56:25,849 --> 00:56:22,859
centuries ago

1431
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:25,859
with no with no caterpillars no no

1432
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:29,520
cranes no forklifts no helicopters no

1433
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,040
Hammer I mean no no technology to speak

1434
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:34,319
of that we know about how in the hell

1435
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,020
did they make the Great Pyramids

1436
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:38,880
and there's not a helicopter on this

1437
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:40,260
planet today that could lift one of

1438
00:56:43,549 --> 00:56:41,280
those blocks by the way

1439
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:43,559
[Laughter]

1440
00:56:47,210 --> 00:56:45,780
so they're it's incredible it really is

1441
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:47,220
incredible

1442
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:49,380
yeah I think they'd to answer your

1443
00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:51,720
question I think time um we don't have a

1444
00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:54,540
very good notion of it and I don't

1445
00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:56,700
believe this is the first time whatever

1446
00:57:02,990 --> 00:57:00,180
this thing is has visited this planet

1447
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,000
and I personally think the reason why

1448
00:57:07,789 --> 00:57:05,819
they've been hesitant to visit us in

1449
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:07,799
Mass again is because

1450
00:57:12,650 --> 00:57:10,500
whatever happened centuries ago did not

1451
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:12,660
end well and they it scared them from

1452
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:15,359
they wanted they probably love us

1453
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:17,640
whatever these phenomena is for whatever

1454
00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:19,380
reason they probably love mankind

1455
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:20,520
otherwise

1456
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:22,200
um

1457
00:57:29,690 --> 00:57:28,250
that's my opinion okay thank you

1458
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:29,700
everything's on the table as far

1459
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,880
absolutely sure yep

1460
00:57:36,589 --> 00:57:34,799
Debs but then again I just have opinions

1461
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:36,599
I'm just a regular guy like you I have

1462
00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:39,299
your your guess is as good as mine it's

1463
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,859
a puzzle where we're all just trying to

1464
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,960
put together right and uh I think we've

1465
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:44,400
got different pieces and it's that's why

1466
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:46,619
we got to talk to each other yep that's

1467
00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:54,589
dabs okay so I wanted to ask we talked a

1468
00:57:58,430 --> 00:57:57,059
little bit about how this impacted your

1469
00:58:00,770 --> 00:57:58,440
life

1470
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,780
um and I wanted to just kind of gauge if

1471
00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:02,640
you feel like things have started to

1472
00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:04,680
slowly improve with everything being

1473
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,020
public at this point with other people

1474
00:58:13,069 --> 00:58:10,319
coming forward with their stories

1475
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:13,079
um including people from other

1476
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:15,180
um like you know government agencies

1477
00:58:19,069 --> 00:58:17,640
like the cias you feel like things are

1478
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:19,079
starting to go in the right direction

1479
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:22,859
that the stigma is starting to diminish

1480
00:58:28,849 --> 00:58:26,160
oh hell yeah and especially for me

1481
00:58:31,309 --> 00:58:28,859
personally I mean I

1482
00:58:33,770 --> 00:58:31,319
it it almost didn't end well for me back

1483
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,780
in that Wilderness you know I mean there

1484
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,280
was dangerous back there there's people

1485
00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:36,720
living back there that aren't friendly

1486
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:38,579
there's snakes there's bear there's

1487
00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:40,680
Cliffs to fall off of

1488
00:58:44,809 --> 00:58:42,839
um and I was back there with my cousin I

1489
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:44,819
mean just the two of us

1490
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:45,599
um

1491
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:54,720
once I understood

1492
00:58:59,450 --> 00:58:56,880
um and again I'm guessing I'm once I

1493
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,460
understood why I had changed

1494
00:59:02,569 --> 00:59:01,680
because of this encounter

1495
00:59:04,910 --> 00:59:02,579
um

1496
00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:04,920
it that knowledge alone helped me to

1497
00:59:09,289 --> 00:59:06,900
come to terms with it and I embraced it

1498
00:59:12,589 --> 00:59:09,299
instead and once I did that my life

1499
00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:12,599
turned around I'm doing much better now

1500
00:59:17,569 --> 00:59:15,480
much better in fact yesterday was my

1501
00:59:19,309 --> 00:59:17,579
eighth month sober

1502
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:19,319
I've stopped drinking nice

1503
00:59:24,289 --> 00:59:22,200
congratulations I have no craving for it

1504
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:24,299
whatsoever thank God for a near beer

1505
00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:31,250
yeah but I don't drink yeah awesome and

1506
00:59:34,849 --> 00:59:33,180
I have I have uh Kimberly Beresford

1507
00:59:36,770 --> 00:59:34,859
thanks for that my girl

1508
00:59:37,450 --> 00:59:36,780
yeah she's in the chat she's in the

1509
00:59:40,670 --> 00:59:37,460
chair

1510
00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:40,680
my sister Debbie day all the women in my

1511
00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:42,599
family slapped me across the face and

1512
00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:45,480
said wake the hell up Kev what are you

1513
00:59:49,309 --> 00:59:46,500
doing

1514
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:49,319
and I finally listened thank God

1515
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:50,880
thank you

1516
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:53,520
that's awesome that's awesome we are

1517
00:59:59,329 --> 00:59:56,520
also thankful uh so I have a question

1518
01:00:02,270 --> 00:59:59,339
from one of our friends uh of the show

1519
01:00:05,930 --> 01:00:02,280
he goes by at Benji might be he's been a

1520
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:05,940
a friend of cab he's been a guest of Deb

1521
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,839
um and uh this this question probably a

1522
01:00:13,490 --> 01:00:11,280
little bit of emotional and you've

1523
01:00:16,270 --> 01:00:13,500
answered part of it but I'm gonna ask

1524
01:00:19,630 --> 01:00:16,280
you because because he's Benji and he's

1525
01:00:24,289 --> 01:00:22,609
you know what emotion is emotion is

1526
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:24,299
beautiful it's the most human thing

1527
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:33,530
what has this experience overall taught

1528
01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:35,880
you about yourself

1529
01:00:41,089 --> 01:00:38,460
um not as a sailor or as an NCO he put

1530
01:00:42,770 --> 01:00:41,099
officer uh but uh but as a human being

1531
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:42,780
what has this experience taught you

1532
01:00:48,349 --> 01:00:45,420
about Kevin Day see now I'm speaking of

1533
01:00:53,930 --> 01:00:50,930
um Never Say Never

1534
01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:53,940
you and I'm I'm speaking of everyone

1535
01:00:58,670 --> 01:00:56,760
um you with inside of you if you grab it

1536
01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:58,680
there was great things inside of you

1537
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:00,059
that you have no idea that you can

1538
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:02,040
accomplish that right now

1539
01:01:06,109 --> 01:01:03,900
and it might even shock you when you're

1540
01:01:08,089 --> 01:01:06,119
done looking back at it you'd be like

1541
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,099
how in the hell did I do that

1542
01:01:12,890 --> 01:01:10,799
I'm just some kid from Iowa

1543
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,900
how in the hell did I do fill in the

1544
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,400
blank

1545
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:17,040
and that's my that's my answer

1546
01:01:25,549 --> 01:01:24,109
you every one of us has greatness inside

1547
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:25,559
of us if

1548
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:27,900
we embrace it you know

1549
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:30,839
um or just commonness you know

1550
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:33,180
maybe that's a better way to say it we

1551
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:35,220
have commonness in this you know Common

1552
01:01:39,049 --> 01:01:36,480
greatness

1553
01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:39,059
it's funny that it's funny to say that

1554
01:01:43,210 --> 01:01:41,640
Kevin we're all imperfectly perfect yeah

1555
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,220
we're all in perfectly perfect

1556
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,359
the people on this show have been

1557
01:01:48,589 --> 01:01:47,280
looking for greatness inside of me for a

1558
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:48,599
year now and they still haven't found it

1559
01:01:53,030 --> 01:01:51,359
so you know if there's a way that you

1560
01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:53,040
could help me realize that that would be

1561
01:01:59,089 --> 01:01:54,599
great

1562
01:02:03,470 --> 01:02:01,250
I'm gonna send you something uh Bigfoot

1563
01:02:06,109 --> 01:02:03,480
wise to watch that's on Amazon Prime

1564
01:02:07,789 --> 01:02:06,119
that I really like called uh and John's

1565
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:07,799
gonna laugh in the chat because we were

1566
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:09,599
speaking about it today over at the base

1567
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:13,740
but it's called Uh missing 4-1-1 and the

1568
01:02:20,029 --> 01:02:17,280
fourth chapter inside that documentary

1569
01:02:22,970 --> 01:02:20,039
um has it's called missing 4-1-1 the

1570
01:02:26,210 --> 01:02:22,980
hunted and there is a Bigfoot aspect

1571
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,220
that uh a group of Northern California

1572
01:02:31,789 --> 01:02:28,559
hunters and their hunting camp back in

1573
01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:31,799
71 recorded some sounds and also had

1574
01:02:37,069 --> 01:02:34,020
visual contact with the phenomena but I

1575
01:02:38,750 --> 01:02:37,079
will I'll text that to you but uh let's

1576
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,760
uh we'll keep going around if anybody

1577
01:02:43,250 --> 01:02:40,799
has the last questions they want to get

1578
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:43,260
to Kevin uh who is it you're you're next

1579
01:02:56,410 --> 01:02:46,319
are you next I know Steph is uh Kevin's

1580
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:00,770
I do often wonder if they UAP

1581
01:03:08,809 --> 01:03:05,640
have emotional intelligence so you did

1582
01:03:11,569 --> 01:03:08,819
somewhat answer that question for me by

1583
01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:11,579
the fact that they Revisited you so that

1584
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:14,760
leads me to believe that they came back

1585
01:03:20,029 --> 01:03:16,740
to your group

1586
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:20,039
per on purpose so that displays some

1587
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,280
form of emotional intelligence to me uh

1588
01:03:28,970 --> 01:03:25,680
whether they were trying to display a

1589
01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:28,980
message to you I don't know but my my

1590
01:03:34,930 --> 01:03:31,140
concern is you know that they are

1591
01:03:38,329 --> 01:03:34,940
disabling the um the nuclear reactors

1592
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,339
and or potentially turning these things

1593
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:40,319
on so

1594
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:43,200
is there is there emotional intelligence

1595
01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:46,260
involved in them trying to stop us from

1596
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:49,260
potentially you know hurting ourselves

1597
01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:51,839
here that's what my question would be is

1598
01:03:56,589 --> 01:03:53,339
do you think that there's an emotional

1599
01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:56,599
intelligence involved in them doing that

1600
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:00,299
and I think your question is this sort

1601
01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:02,160
of the same question that

1602
01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:04,140
um Matthew zydog has asked me about

1603
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:06,180
intention

1604
01:04:10,010 --> 01:04:08,520
um and my answer is yes

1605
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:10,020
um they are highly emotionally

1606
01:04:14,569 --> 01:04:11,760
intelligent

1607
01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,579
um and they can ascertain our intent as

1608
01:04:19,309 --> 01:04:16,920
well I think they're watching out for

1609
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:19,319
our best and truths I do

1610
01:04:24,349 --> 01:04:21,660
they love this blue planet like probably

1611
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:24,359
more than we do yeah I would like to

1612
01:04:30,289 --> 01:04:27,000
believe that myself so you know it's it

1613
01:04:32,750 --> 01:04:30,299
you hope that the intent is not bad but

1614
01:04:36,890 --> 01:04:32,760
you know I I do think that we do need to

1615
01:04:38,690 --> 01:04:36,900
be prepared for the opposite also you

1616
01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:38,700
know you you hear about the radiation

1617
01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:41,880
and the lasers being utilized and I'm

1618
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:44,460
concerned as to how our military will

1619
01:04:50,569 --> 01:04:46,619
react in that regard

1620
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:53,029
well you know I to kind of put it in the

1621
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:54,660
box and I don't want to I don't want to

1622
01:04:59,089 --> 01:04:56,880
sound like a butthole or nothing but

1623
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:59,099
you know a taxi cab is dangerous too if

1624
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:00,480
you stand in front of it when it's going

1625
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,599
80. 100 agreed

1626
01:05:07,789 --> 01:05:04,880
very true

1627
01:05:09,289 --> 01:05:07,799
there's parts of this phenomenon that

1628
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,299
maybe aren't healthy but that's true

1629
01:05:14,029 --> 01:05:11,520
with any technology isn't it even a

1630
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:14,039
pencil or a pen can do damage to you in

1631
01:05:31,490 --> 01:05:28,849
so I think that's I don't think um the

1632
01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:31,500
radiation is on purpose to harm anyone

1633
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,480
it's just we didn't understand what the

1634
01:05:37,789 --> 01:05:35,460
person that was getting too close didn't

1635
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:37,799
understand the danger

1636
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:40,559
to that particular object

1637
01:05:43,849 --> 01:05:42,660
I think that's the answer

1638
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:43,859
all right

1639
01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:46,559
yeah I appreciate your Insight on to the

1640
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:49,740
as to you know what you think that our

1641
01:05:54,829 --> 01:05:52,500
reaction would be if if the the case

1642
01:05:56,809 --> 01:05:54,839
were adverse if it were something that

1643
01:05:58,849 --> 01:05:56,819
wasn't a good intent

1644
01:06:00,770 --> 01:05:58,859
um you know I'm concerned for our

1645
01:06:02,750 --> 01:06:00,780
service men and women so

1646
01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:02,760
something that something to think about

1647
01:06:07,849 --> 01:06:05,700
and wonder about

1648
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,859
draw our slow at serving that bad intent

1649
01:06:12,049 --> 01:06:10,079
if that's the case

1650
01:06:13,730 --> 01:06:12,059
yeah I mean we haven't we haven't been

1651
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:13,740
fired upon but but

1652
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:15,119
um we fired upon them they've had

1653
01:06:19,490 --> 01:06:17,039
they've had centuries now to do bad

1654
01:06:20,329 --> 01:06:19,500
things to us so

1655
01:06:22,609 --> 01:06:20,339
um

1656
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:22,619
if if that Sarah they're a little lame

1657
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:24,299
aren't they

1658
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:26,760
I mean even since Graham Graham Randall

1659
01:06:31,130 --> 01:06:28,799
wrote his book uh with the Foo Fighters

1660
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:31,140
right right I'm just kidding Grandma's

1661
01:06:35,569 --> 01:06:33,359
there in the 40s yeah yeah well there's

1662
01:06:37,849 --> 01:06:35,579
potential for it there's always the what

1663
01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:37,859
if so I do yeah I think about those

1664
01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:40,380
things and you know you hope and you

1665
01:06:44,569 --> 01:06:42,119
hope that those things don't happen but

1666
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:44,579
there there's the potential so

1667
01:06:50,569 --> 01:06:48,180
yeah it is but it is the it is the very

1668
01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:50,579
definition of a Potential Threat

1669
01:06:54,890 --> 01:06:52,500
um any anything can be threaded it it

1670
01:06:56,809 --> 01:06:54,900
hasn't been kinetic or dynamic at this

1671
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:56,819
point it doesn't mean that they won't be

1672
01:07:01,309 --> 01:06:59,039
but uh but it goes back to what we spoke

1673
01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:01,319
about earlier why am I going to lie

1674
01:07:06,589 --> 01:07:03,599
asleep at night worrying about things I

1675
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,599
can't control what I can do is come and

1676
01:07:11,210 --> 01:07:08,160
talk about

1677
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:11,220
um how we uh live together on the planet

1678
01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,200
which we do on this show and how we

1679
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:15,420
might interact with the phenomenon and

1680
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,420
and and how we we treat one another and

1681
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,640
that's the only thing I can do and and

1682
01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:22,559
we can we can sit there and theorize

1683
01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:24,420
about the phenomenon which is fun that's

1684
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:26,460
why we're doing the show but I can't

1685
01:07:31,010 --> 01:07:28,980
worry about what it might do because I

1686
01:07:32,270 --> 01:07:31,020
can't control that any more than I can

1687
01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:32,280
control what the weather's going to be

1688
01:07:34,730 --> 01:07:33,660
tomorrow am I going to worry if it's

1689
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:34,740
going to rain

1690
01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:37,200
I mean maybe if I'm having like a picnic

1691
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:41,400
outside anyway uh money Nathan

1692
01:07:47,470 --> 01:07:44,760
yeah so I wanted to ask um

1693
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,480
again speculating here

1694
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:49,920
anyone who's been through an event that

1695
01:07:54,589 --> 01:07:52,319
that really impacts their life thanks

1696
01:07:55,849 --> 01:07:54,599
back to that event it kind of runs it

1697
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:55,859
through their minds over and over again

1698
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:58,079
is there anything that's occurred to you

1699
01:08:03,170 --> 01:08:00,299
in thinking back through it

1700
01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:03,180
that something that you you or others

1701
01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:04,260
that you know involved in the event

1702
01:08:08,210 --> 01:08:06,359
would have wanted to do differently if

1703
01:08:10,910 --> 01:08:08,220
you could run through it again anything

1704
01:08:13,309 --> 01:08:10,920
that you would try to advise or anything

1705
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,319
you would try to capture or what's

1706
01:08:18,289 --> 01:08:16,080
something that uh comes to mind there I

1707
01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:18,299
would I would have kept a um a private

1708
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:20,279
logbook

1709
01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:22,620
um with my with my private recordings

1710
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:24,179
and some of the fellow watch centers

1711
01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:25,679
private recordings everyone signed and

1712
01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:27,179
dated it

1713
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,859
Because the actual logbook got

1714
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:30,239
confiscated

1715
01:08:34,610 --> 01:08:33,000
but um like my I have my air intercept

1716
01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:34,620
control log book I mean I still have

1717
01:08:38,570 --> 01:08:35,819
that and

1718
01:08:41,090 --> 01:08:38,580
I have hundreds of air intercepts in

1719
01:08:43,130 --> 01:08:41,100
that logbook from both peacetime and

1720
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:43,140
wartime operations by the way you know

1721
01:08:46,189 --> 01:08:44,400
because I was in

1722
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,199
everything from Desert Shield all the

1723
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,239
way to operation Iraqi Freedom all of

1724
01:08:53,289 --> 01:08:50,640
them you know every single one of them

1725
01:08:55,849 --> 01:08:53,299
and um

1726
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,859
I had hundreds of intercepts in that

1727
01:09:00,590 --> 01:08:58,319
logbook and the Tic Tac was my very last

1728
01:09:02,269 --> 01:09:00,600
intercept now I wish I would have kept

1729
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:02,279
the same type of logbook

1730
01:09:05,450 --> 01:09:04,020
um during this if I could go back in

1731
01:09:06,590 --> 01:09:05,460
time and doing one thing different that

1732
01:09:07,930 --> 01:09:06,600
would be it

1733
01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:07,940
um

1734
01:09:16,849 --> 01:09:14,870
it was well the lesson for that the

1735
01:09:19,309 --> 01:09:16,859
lesson for that is

1736
01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:19,319
um always take your cell phone with you

1737
01:09:24,169 --> 01:09:21,540
and if you see something pull it out and

1738
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,179
use it right that's that's your that's

1739
01:09:28,430 --> 01:09:26,640
our today's log book right there take

1740
01:09:31,729 --> 01:09:28,440
your cell phone and start recording it

1741
01:09:34,130 --> 01:09:31,739
that's our logbook so that's my and that

1742
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,140
that's another lesson learned it so I

1743
01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:36,000
can turn your question into a lesson

1744
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,739
learned for right now this Roman this

1745
01:09:42,289 --> 01:09:39,779
moment absolutely take your take your

1746
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:42,299
recording devices with you because I

1747
01:09:45,289 --> 01:09:43,679
believe these things are going to become

1748
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:45,299
more and more common the sightings and

1749
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,400
now we have the technology to to see and

1750
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:49,440
record them easier than we ever had

1751
01:09:52,610 --> 01:09:50,400
before

1752
01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:52,620
and why does it happen and like we said

1753
01:09:57,890 --> 01:09:56,040
I don't know I don't care but it is and

1754
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:57,900
like has already been pointed out a

1755
01:10:01,970 --> 01:09:59,400
couple times that we do not have control

1756
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,980
of this which is part of my personal

1757
01:10:06,410 --> 01:10:03,360
fear

1758
01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,420
um I know these things right now in this

1759
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:08,400
moment could do a sudden Mass contact

1760
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:10,860
worldwide and there's not a damn thing

1761
01:10:15,649 --> 01:10:13,199
we could do about it to stop it

1762
01:10:18,350 --> 01:10:15,659
evil in town or not there's nothing we

1763
01:10:20,770 --> 01:10:18,360
can do to stop it

1764
01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:20,780
um and because I know it changes you

1765
01:10:24,590 --> 01:10:23,940
to me that's my fear right there bam I

1766
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:24,600
mean

1767
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,480
and I but I personally believe the

1768
01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:29,280
reason why that isn't or hasn't happened

1769
01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:31,080
is because whatever this thing is they

1770
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:32,719
don't want us dead

1771
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:35,460
otherwise we'd be dead many centuries

1772
01:10:41,630 --> 01:10:39,890
yeah who's going to do the podcast I

1773
01:10:43,130 --> 01:10:41,640
mean they're not doing it that's true so

1774
01:10:45,709 --> 01:10:43,140
I mean they need you know really they

1775
01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:45,719
need us absolutely um the one thing I

1776
01:10:49,850 --> 01:10:47,219
was gonna I was going to ask about this

1777
01:10:51,770 --> 01:10:49,860
is a community pointed question because

1778
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:51,780
I think you can provide a little bit of

1779
01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:54,540
service to the community now

1780
01:11:00,490 --> 01:10:57,480
um without getting into specifics that

1781
01:11:02,990 --> 01:11:00,500
would speak about specific capabilities

1782
01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:03,000
a lot of people are asserting for

1783
01:11:08,270 --> 01:11:06,179
example that uh which I don't agree with

1784
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,280
that that what Jeremy corbell's

1785
01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:10,320
reporting isn't true and that you have

1786
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:12,360
all these sort of quadcopter drones that

1787
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,580
are buzzing around Navy ships and what

1788
01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:16,080
I've told them that and I don't remember

1789
01:11:20,330 --> 01:11:18,179
the name of the system but the ships

1790
01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:20,340
have a system that creates sort of a net

1791
01:11:24,649 --> 01:11:23,040
around these ships and they can shoot

1792
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:24,659
down

1793
01:11:31,490 --> 01:11:28,080
um protect the ship without getting into

1794
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,500
uh that ranges and distances and and and

1795
01:11:35,570 --> 01:11:32,880
anything that would be considered

1796
01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:35,580
sensitive can you confirm that that

1797
01:11:40,970 --> 01:11:37,260
there are Systems Support these modern

1798
01:11:43,070 --> 01:11:40,980
ships that can take out uh these prosaic

1799
01:11:44,810 --> 01:11:43,080
drones that people fly around without

1800
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:44,820
much trouble

1801
01:11:48,290 --> 01:11:46,199
absolutely

1802
01:11:50,030 --> 01:11:48,300
of course there is yeah even today's

1803
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,040
tanks can probably do that you know I

1804
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:52,080
mean it's the Techno the weapon systems

1805
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:53,940
are definitely out there

1806
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,940
and I I think some of these more recent

1807
01:12:00,709 --> 01:11:59,040
sightings probably are drones now it's a

1808
01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:00,719
combination of stuff or before it wasn't

1809
01:12:04,490 --> 01:12:02,520
because drones just weren't prevalent

1810
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,500
like they were now but most definitely

1811
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:06,000
some of the um

1812
01:12:10,729 --> 01:12:09,120
sightings now are could are definitely

1813
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:10,739
well they're definitely probably drones

1814
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:13,679
yeah like people are just paying

1815
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,020
attention now you know these are the the

1816
01:12:21,410 --> 01:12:18,960
the 2019 contacts where they were well

1817
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:21,420
offshore beyond the distance and there's

1818
01:12:28,669 --> 01:12:25,140
an endurance and a uh uh an endurance uh

1819
01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:28,679
factor that comes into play and uh and

1820
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,560
they uh so at least the reporting that

1821
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:34,080
Jeremy did and and some things that I've

1822
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:36,719
heard about is is that just these were

1823
01:12:41,149 --> 01:12:38,880
not something Prozac that couldn't be

1824
01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:41,159
just or wouldn't be just taken out by

1825
01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:42,840
the ship's defensive systems otherwise

1826
01:12:46,490 --> 01:12:44,940
everyone just fly their drones over to a

1827
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:46,500
ship and say ah let's go see what's

1828
01:12:52,490 --> 01:12:49,280
going on in the deck of the ship

1829
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:52,500
yeah and or the commanders of the ships

1830
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:54,719
didn't didn't interpret whatever it was

1831
01:13:02,209 --> 01:12:56,340
as any type of threat

1832
01:13:06,590 --> 01:13:04,310
but there is there is there are these

1833
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,600
systems I mean we you just can't go down

1834
01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:08,159
shoot and you just can't go out and

1835
01:13:11,390 --> 01:13:09,480
start shooting stuff down just because

1836
01:13:13,370 --> 01:13:11,400
you feel threatened by it just like I

1837
01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:13,380
can't go down to 7-Eleven and punch some

1838
01:13:17,450 --> 01:13:15,060
guy in the face just because he called

1839
01:13:19,550 --> 01:13:17,460
me a bad name you know it's the same

1840
01:13:21,410 --> 01:13:19,560
type of thing right

1841
01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:21,420
um there has to be and we learned that

1842
01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:23,880
lesson hard on the USS Vincennes when we

1843
01:13:29,149 --> 01:13:26,520
shot down Iranian flight 655.

1844
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:29,159
we just can't shoot down this stuff just

1845
01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:31,560
because we feel threatened and we don't

1846
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:33,000
know what it is

1847
01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:35,040
bad [\h__\h] happens when you do that right

1848
01:13:39,229 --> 01:13:37,080
so

1849
01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:39,239
that's true kind of track and Observe

1850
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,980
and Report you know unless you're

1851
01:13:44,570 --> 01:13:42,719
threatened by it for some specific

1852
01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:44,580
reason then you take defensive majors

1853
01:13:48,290 --> 01:13:46,380
and yes to answer your question there

1854
01:13:49,610 --> 01:13:48,300
are systems in place to do that you bet

1855
01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:49,620
there is

1856
01:13:55,130 --> 01:13:52,199
and I won't go into Howard wire

1857
01:13:57,229 --> 01:13:55,140
um right right yeah

1858
01:13:58,669 --> 01:13:57,239
right and if they probably got stuff now

1859
01:14:00,830 --> 01:13:58,679
I'm not even aware of I've been out of

1860
01:14:02,330 --> 01:14:00,840
the service for a while now so I was

1861
01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:02,340
gonna say yeah they've probably gotten

1862
01:14:06,229 --> 01:14:03,960
better but I was telling people even

1863
01:14:07,930 --> 01:14:06,239
over when I used to be at Bagram as an

1864
01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:07,940
Air Force guy we had a Navy system

1865
01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:10,760
mounted that would take out like um

1866
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:14,100
mortars and and different projectiles

1867
01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:15,840
that would uh that would come over the

1868
01:14:21,229 --> 01:14:18,780
wall uh and these they had uh they had

1869
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,239
some radar systems they had a a camera

1870
01:14:24,830 --> 01:14:23,040
suspended by a balloon as well and when

1871
01:14:27,169 --> 01:14:24,840
somebody would lob something over out

1872
01:14:29,330 --> 01:14:27,179
here and it would just boom you know

1873
01:14:32,030 --> 01:14:29,340
take it right out of the sky in in most

1874
01:14:34,250 --> 01:14:32,040
cases not you know not 100 effective but

1875
01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:34,260
very effective so

1876
01:14:40,130 --> 01:14:37,560
I thought I heard one what's that thank

1877
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:40,140
God right thank God yeah I heard one one

1878
01:14:44,590 --> 01:14:42,600
night I guess it was mounted close to

1879
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:44,600
where I worked that I wasn't aware of

1880
01:14:50,450 --> 01:14:48,000
and I I heard it go off and I thought it

1881
01:14:52,729 --> 01:14:50,460
was the sound of a plane about to crash

1882
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:52,739
into the building because it the the the

1883
01:14:57,050 --> 01:14:54,719
the chain gun you know it sounded like a

1884
01:14:59,930 --> 01:14:57,060
propeller noise so I tackled the person

1885
01:15:01,970 --> 01:14:59,940
next to me just thinking of you know we

1886
01:15:04,189 --> 01:15:01,980
got to get down and not and really

1887
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,199
thinking that the building the roof was

1888
01:15:08,209 --> 01:15:06,000
about to come in but in fact it was just

1889
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:08,219
that system taking out some sort of a

1890
01:15:12,649 --> 01:15:09,719
projectile that was coming over the

1891
01:15:14,330 --> 01:15:12,659
fence so yep anyway yeah still made your

1892
01:15:17,570 --> 01:15:14,340
short hair stand on in I'm sure yeah

1893
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:17,580
yeah it was pretty funny like dude what

1894
01:15:22,370 --> 01:15:19,020
are you doing I'm like do the thumb

1895
01:15:25,490 --> 01:15:22,380
we're good anyway all right so uh last

1896
01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:25,500
round for uh Kevin Day party people is

1897
01:15:29,810 --> 01:15:27,420
there anything else that that you guys

1898
01:15:34,610 --> 01:15:29,820
want to ask Mr day

1899
01:15:37,729 --> 01:15:34,620
like Okay Kevin Baker's got one

1900
01:15:42,169 --> 01:15:39,950
entering into supposedly a new phase of

1901
01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:42,179
a Cold War I mean Another Cold War I was

1902
01:15:45,550 --> 01:15:44,100
wondering if you think things are about

1903
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:45,560
to get interesting

1904
01:15:49,970 --> 01:15:48,420
regardless to the UAP phenomenon based

1905
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:49,980
on you know that they're

1906
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:52,320
attraction to nuclear

1907
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:54,659
related things do you think it's going

1908
01:16:02,450 --> 01:16:00,470
um

1909
01:16:03,250 --> 01:16:02,460
let me let me kind of rephrase your

1910
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:03,260
question

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01:16:08,990 --> 01:16:06,000
would they would they stop a nuclear war

1912
01:16:11,209 --> 01:16:09,000
from happening no I'm

1913
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:11,219
there is a increase in sightings during

1914
01:16:15,229 --> 01:16:13,380
the uh the Cold War

1915
01:16:17,209 --> 01:16:15,239
um you know they would be visiting the

1916
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:17,219
the nuke sites the uh a lot of power

1917
01:16:20,090 --> 01:16:18,900
plants I'm wondering if that's going to

1918
01:16:22,130 --> 01:16:20,100
happen again now that we're entering

1919
01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:22,140
into another phase of a you know Cold

1920
01:16:25,729 --> 01:16:22,980
War

1921
01:16:28,189 --> 01:16:25,739
I don't I don't know you know I

1922
01:16:31,490 --> 01:16:28,199
I'm like you I have more questions than

1923
01:16:33,229 --> 01:16:31,500
answers yeah I mean that this side is

1924
01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:33,239
questions and this side is my answer so

1925
01:16:37,610 --> 01:16:35,400
far you know right

1926
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:37,620
that's all of us Kevin all of us have a

1927
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,410
um so thank you uh very much everybody's

1928
01:16:50,209 --> 01:16:48,000
Gonna Wanna Say Goodbye and uh we

1929
01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:50,219
definitely would want to do a uh round

1930
01:16:54,830 --> 01:16:52,260
two with you but before we go can you

1931
01:16:57,890 --> 01:16:54,840
please uh let us in on who you're

1932
01:16:59,630 --> 01:16:57,900
working with now what organization what

1933
01:17:01,490 --> 01:16:59,640
are your next steps that you guys have

1934
01:17:04,189 --> 01:17:01,500
going on please tell us what you're

1935
01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:04,199
involved in at the moment

1936
01:17:08,330 --> 01:17:05,820
um uapx

1937
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:08,340
um because of some stuff that happened

1938
01:17:13,310 --> 01:17:11,460
eternally in internally excuse me and

1939
01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:13,320
some other opportunities that I've had

1940
01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:17,580
come along I've left uapx Expeditions

1941
01:17:21,890 --> 01:17:19,800
um Gary Voorhees is still running it God

1942
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:21,900
bless him good man

1943
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:24,600
um but I'm not part of the organization

1944
01:17:26,689 --> 01:17:25,860
now

1945
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,699
um

1946
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:29,280
and I'm kind of in a transition period

1947
01:17:31,450 --> 01:17:30,239
because

1948
01:17:35,930 --> 01:17:31,460
um

1949
01:17:38,930 --> 01:17:35,940
my my wife of 31 years left me

1950
01:17:39,649 --> 01:17:38,940
um over mostly over this um as it turns

1951
01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:39,659
out

1952
01:17:43,790 --> 01:17:42,120
um and uh

1953
01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:43,800
have the love of my life that just

1954
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,020
entered My Life um Kimberly Beresford

1955
01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:47,760
now I can't even tell you how much that

1956
01:17:50,990 --> 01:17:49,140
woman has helped me

1957
01:17:53,209 --> 01:17:51,000
but God bless her for what she's done

1958
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:53,219
for me you know

1959
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:56,159
yeah hi Kim I have heard a thing for

1960
01:18:00,410 --> 01:17:57,840
stop drinking you know

1961
01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,420
and um God that may have saved my life

1962
01:18:04,850 --> 01:18:02,640
are you kidding me

1963
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:04,860
wow or at least put yours back on it

1964
01:18:08,930 --> 01:18:07,199
God's willing you know

1965
01:18:11,149 --> 01:18:08,940
and what was your question again I get

1966
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,159
carried away man I get so emotional I'm

1967
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:12,960
sorry

1968
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:15,120
I don't know if I'm trying to think that

1969
01:18:19,370 --> 01:18:17,100
was uh whose question who who had a

1970
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:19,380
question for him that was uh

1971
01:18:23,930 --> 01:18:21,360
I don't remember who who asked was that

1972
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:23,940
Kev or was that me I know Deb has a

1973
01:18:32,689 --> 01:18:30,649
I wanted to give a shout out to Kim by

1974
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,699
the way because she is amazing she and I

1975
01:18:36,890 --> 01:18:34,800
have communicated also so maybe next

1976
01:18:38,689 --> 01:18:36,900
time she should come with you to talk

1977
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:38,699
yeah please

1978
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:41,280
um so she's listening in right now she's

1979
01:18:44,689 --> 01:18:42,320
listening

1980
01:18:46,729 --> 01:18:44,699
I know we're wrapping up here shortly

1981
01:18:49,370 --> 01:18:46,739
but I just had a quick question I wanted

1982
01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:49,380
to ask a lot of people there are some

1983
01:18:53,149 --> 01:18:52,260
rumors about some shapes and we know

1984
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,159
that

1985
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:55,199
um as far as paperwork is concerned some

1986
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:57,120
of those have been redacted and I

1987
01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,280
understand why a lot of people don't but

1988
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,400
I do get why they redacted them but some

1989
01:19:06,410 --> 01:19:04,800
of those rumors are that the shapes that

1990
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:06,420
we're seeing around

1991
01:19:12,830 --> 01:19:10,560
our military ships are not just Tic Tacs

1992
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:12,840
do you have you heard that has anyone

1993
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,420
spoken to you about that about what what

1994
01:19:18,729 --> 01:19:17,760
are they say the shape or not just

1995
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:18,739
tickets

1996
01:19:25,070 --> 01:19:22,800
or the shapes of the objects

1997
01:19:28,250 --> 01:19:25,080
I've heard I've heard for instance that

1998
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:28,260
there was a saucer no I'm not surprised

1999
01:19:32,570 --> 01:19:29,760
I mean people have seen triangles

2000
01:19:34,130 --> 01:19:32,580
squares uh squares and side circles I

2001
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:34,140
mean you name the shape and people have

2002
01:19:38,750 --> 01:19:35,600
seen it

2003
01:19:40,130 --> 01:19:38,760
unless we're all on dope I mean I mean

2004
01:19:41,630 --> 01:19:40,140
these people that are seeing these

2005
01:19:43,850 --> 01:19:41,640
things are highly credible too and they

2006
01:19:46,850 --> 01:19:43,860
why would they want to lie about it most

2007
01:19:49,010 --> 01:19:46,860
of them you know of course not

2008
01:19:50,510 --> 01:19:49,020
so yeah the fact there's different

2009
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,520
shapes doesn't surprise me at all

2010
01:19:53,450 --> 01:19:52,320
there's different shapes of cars too

2011
01:19:55,550 --> 01:19:53,460
right

2012
01:19:57,770 --> 01:19:55,560
but they don't all look like uh Vegas

2013
01:19:59,630 --> 01:19:57,780
you know every car on the road's a vegan

2014
01:20:01,550 --> 01:19:59,640
nope they ain't all kinds of cars out

2015
01:20:03,890 --> 01:20:01,560
there well UAP is the same no big

2016
01:20:05,930 --> 01:20:03,900
surprise

2017
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:05,940
and and the Vega I wouldn't recommend

2018
01:20:09,709 --> 01:20:07,320
because they really didn't perfect the

2019
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:09,719
four-cylinder engine at that point

2020
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:12,320
um no I had one

2021
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,560
yeah I had one in high school

2022
01:20:20,090 --> 01:20:18,480
um no so yeah the question that that

2023
01:20:21,530 --> 01:20:20,100
question actually was mine and it was

2024
01:20:23,810 --> 01:20:21,540
about what you're currently working with

2025
01:20:26,090 --> 01:20:23,820
is there a name to your new organization

2026
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:26,100
is there a Next Step that you want

2027
01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:27,360
people to know about

2028
01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:30,600
uh no it's just uh me and I'm figuring

2029
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:31,980
it out right now I'm in the transition

2030
01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:34,560
period um letting kind of things settle

2031
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,260
down and adjust I'm very picky with who

2032
01:20:41,689 --> 01:20:39,600
I decide to uh

2033
01:20:43,790 --> 01:20:41,699
um spend my time with right now

2034
01:20:45,410 --> 01:20:43,800
just because there's so many demands on

2035
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:45,420
it and

2036
01:20:49,250 --> 01:20:47,400
um and there's a phrase that I try to

2037
01:20:52,669 --> 01:20:49,260
live by now is be careful what you wish

2038
01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:55,010
yeah so I'm trying to abide by that

2039
01:20:58,010 --> 01:20:56,280
because I don't want to be like that

2040
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:58,020
rock star guy or that movie star guy

2041
01:21:03,530 --> 01:20:59,040
that

2042
01:21:05,689 --> 01:21:03,540
a personal level and I don't want to be

2043
01:21:07,550 --> 01:21:05,699
that kind of person I I'm pretty simple

2044
01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:07,560
man I just want to have a happy home

2045
01:21:10,610 --> 01:21:08,699
life and

2046
01:21:14,810 --> 01:21:10,620
and help out in my town and my community

2047
01:21:17,149 --> 01:21:14,820
and and pay my bills and and

2048
01:21:19,149 --> 01:21:17,159
take care of the dogs and the house and

2049
01:21:22,129 --> 01:21:19,159
that kind of stuff you know

2050
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:22,139
too much you know I'm pretty simple

2051
01:21:26,570 --> 01:21:25,020
so yeah my life is turned around and

2052
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,580
that's my message I'm

2053
01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:29,040
if you encounter these things

2054
01:21:35,209 --> 01:21:32,760
um and that [\h__\h] starts to happen don't

2055
01:21:37,370 --> 01:21:35,219
give up because at the end of the day if

2056
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:37,380
you hang in there with it for some

2057
01:21:42,530 --> 01:21:40,980
reason this thing will this and I'm not

2058
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:42,540
the only one saying this now astronauts

2059
01:21:48,590 --> 01:21:44,880
are saying this for some reason it ends

2060
01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:49,729
yeah

2061
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,420
just going to space and looking back at

2062
01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:56,159
Earth uh gave him a different

2063
01:22:00,890 --> 01:21:58,320
perspective in seeing the world without

2064
01:22:02,870 --> 01:22:00,900
map lines on it and made him a better

2065
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:02,880
human and I can hear that when I listen

2066
01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:06,480
to his podcast uh I'm sure this is a

2067
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:09,060
little bit of a pinch ourself moment you

2068
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:10,739
know a year and change ago when when

2069
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:13,679
Nathan and I started this before we even

2070
01:22:18,050 --> 01:22:15,540
uh got the other cabbies we had hoped

2071
01:22:20,570 --> 01:22:18,060
that we'd be able to talk to you and

2072
01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:20,580
your mates and a lot of these folks and

2073
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:23,940
thank goodness now uh people are uh

2074
01:22:28,370 --> 01:22:25,980
engaging with us and allowing us to

2075
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:28,380
welcome them into a cab that isn't going

2076
01:22:31,490 --> 01:22:30,000
to run you over at 80 miles an hour I

2077
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:31,500
promise

2078
01:22:37,550 --> 01:22:34,560
um and um so yeah and personally you

2079
01:22:39,950 --> 01:22:37,560
know not only on behalf of cap but it's

2080
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,960
my honor to speak with you and I hope

2081
01:22:44,330 --> 01:22:41,520
that you'll come and join us again and

2082
01:22:46,970 --> 01:22:44,340
Kim is welcome to uh to come with you

2083
01:22:49,250 --> 01:22:46,980
and uh I'll talk to Kim about it and uh

2084
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,260
I'm leaning I'm leaving in in favor of

2085
01:22:52,669 --> 01:22:51,120
that right now know because I I actually

2086
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,679
very much enjoyed being here with you

2087
01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:54,239
guys and it sounds like you're my kind

2088
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:55,320
of people

2089
01:23:06,770 --> 01:23:03,770
all right so for for Nathan for Debs for

2090
01:23:09,709 --> 01:23:06,780
Steph and for Kevin this is DJ saying to

2091
01:23:11,450 --> 01:23:09,719
Kevin peace out salute and as always

2092
01:23:13,790 --> 01:23:11,460
we'll see you down the road we wonder

2093
01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:13,800
what's up around the bend thank you and